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Old May 26, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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So I'm looking around for rods and I can't find any good sources of information out there... I see that the Lunati Pro Billet rods are rated at 1250 and use 220,000 psi rod bolts. The cheaper Carrillo H-beams are rated the same. How do the other ones with the 285,000 psi bolts hold up?

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Old May 26, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Your running 7k rpm? Does it make any difference?
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Old May 26, 2006 | 06:28 PM
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Where did you find cheaper Carillos ? Aren't the Lunati's $1000 and the Carillo's like $1800 + . I know Carillo has a more affordable A beam .
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Old May 26, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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"A" beam?? thats a good one..
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Old May 26, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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The A beams are used in applications that see less HP like a NASCAR tour motor they are very light... Im with David..your only runnin 7k... Carrillo has many bolt options thta can be as expensive as 20 plus dollars per bolt.. but then again you dont see any Cup cars runnin Lunati's
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Old May 26, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Go Lunati, I have the springs, and cam. Good stuff.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DavidNJ
Your running 7k rpm? Does it make any difference?
I dunno, that's why I asked. I want to push 7500, but I guess it's still the same. I also left out some info... I want to push between 15 and 20 psi with a turbo setup and add up to a 200ish (N/A) shot to that. My goal is 1000+ RWHP. I want my car to be a dyno queen. Plus, my car will be seeing at least a 400 shot until I can afford this turbo setup.

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Where did you find cheaper Carillos ? Aren't the Lunati's $1000 and the Carillo's like $1800 + . I know Carillo has a more affordable A beam .
http://www.thunderracing.com/catalog...&sid=306#P2390

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"A" beam?? thats a good one..
Flatland Racing has them for the LS1.
http://www.carrilloind.com/03bro3.pdf

Thanks for your help everyone. I think I will just end up using the cheaper Carrillos
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You DO realize a LSX with 15 to 20 psi of boost (assuming its enough CFM) will easily make 1,000hp right? Why are you going to throw all these power adders on it and dump all this money into this thing to have a "dyno queen" as you say. Just so you can waive around dyno sheets? LMFAO@this whole thread. Its almost as funny as the guy that wanted a cam just for the sound but didnt care if he lost power doing it.
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Originally Posted by Lason
You DO realize a LSX with 15 to 20 psi of boost (assuming its enough CFM) will easily make 1,000hp right?
Your frist problem is that you're making assumptions. And no it won't make that kind of power with few cubes. I'm not from Texas so I don't know what the tree-hugger laws are like down there, but this is the route I'm going to have to go. So if you don't have anything constructive to say, then go suck a fat one.

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Why are you going to throw all these power adders on it and dump all this money into this thing to have a "dyno queen" as you say.
Your second problem is you don't make enough money. If I want to "dump" money into my dyno queen, so be it. That's my perogative and not a loss. Not everyone has to settle for Eagle rods and other cheap ****.


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Its almost as funny as the guy that wanted a cam just for the sound but didnt care if he lost power doing it.
Your third problem is you worry too much about what others are doing with their cars. If someone wants his car to sound cool, so what? It's almost the same reason I run around with open headers from time to time. If I'd rather spray hard to cool the boosted air vs a fat FMIC and an ugly, cut to all hell bumper cover, then just live with it!



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and thanks for adding constructive information...
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Well for one, you have no idea how much I make but I will say Im well off with two car notes, house payment and live VERY nice for a being a single dad of two. That being said Im not going to sink down to your level of immaturity but I will try to be as constructive as possible.

1. Have you ever ran a boosted motor? You dont need a mountain motor with 15-20psi and a 200 shot of nitrous to make 1000hp. Sorry, its just not going to happen. Look at the guy on here with the silverado pickup making more than 1000hp with a 6.0l and a turbo. I could point you to many more but if your REALLY interested in figuring out how much hp a turbo motor is capable of then check out the GM section of turbomustangs.com. You will learn A LOT!

2. Im assuming by your dumbass tree hugging joke then you mean you live somewhere that only offers 91 octane? Here in "treehugging" Texas we still have pumps that have 110. Few and far between but they are around and you can get 93 anywhere. So your planning on 1000hp on pump gas?

You know, I really love LS1's but its not hard to see why we have a bad rap as being arrogant ***'s when you have people like yourself acting the way you do. Truely a shame but best of luck to you in your daydreaming.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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"And no it won't make that kind of power with few cubes. I'm not from Texas so I don't know what the tree-hugger laws are like down there, but this is the route I'm going to have to go."

1) Yes it will. If you think 346 cubes can't make 1000hp, youneed to be edu-ma-cated.
2) You posted in another forum that you wanted to move to Texas. You liked their new 80mph law.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lason
Well for one, you have no idea how much I make but I will say Im well off with two car notes, house payment and live VERY nice for a being a single dad of two. That being said Im not going to sink down to your level of immaturity but I will try to be as constructive as possible.
No, sorry, you don't make enough. Sorry if it's immature, it's just the truth. Houses are what? Generally under $500,000 in Texas? I envy you. You're lucky to find a decent house in the D.C. area for $1million. If only the prices of mods worked like the cost of living. You weren't very constructive... (see last paragraph)


Originally Posted by Lason
1. Have you ever ran a boosted motor? You dont need a mountain motor with 15-20psi and a 200 shot of nitrous to make 1000hp. Sorry, its just not going to happen. Look at the guy on here with the silverado pickup making more than 1000hp with a 6.0l and a turbo. I could point you to many more but if your REALLY interested in figuring out how much hp a turbo motor is capable of then check out the GM section of turbomustangs.com. You will learn A LOT!
Yeah I've run a boosted motor and I want a mountain motor. What if, just WHAT IF, one day I want more? Why can't I spend the money now? Why do I have to do things YOUR way??? It's my goddamn car isn't it?

Originally Posted by Lason
2. Im assuming by your dumbass tree hugging joke then you mean you live somewhere that only offers 91 octane? Here in "treehugging" Texas we still have pumps that have 110. Few and far between but they are around and you can get 93 anywhere. So your planning on 1000hp on pump gas?
Well don't assume. I'm talking about emissions not the gas you have. If I had the option of 110 I'd be in heaven. 93 is the highest I get to use from the pump. That's my limit... more on this later.


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You know, I really love LS1's but its not hard to see why we have a bad rap as being arrogant ***'s when you have people like yourself acting the way you do. Truely a shame but best of luck to you in your daydreaming.
Maybe you should stop worrying about what other people think. Thank you for your good wishes, but I've done my dreaming and it's time to act, that's why I post questions and make phone calls.



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1) Yes it will. If you think 346 cubes can't make 1000hp, youneed to be edu-ma-cated.
I know a 346 can make that power. But how much psi? What compression? Is meth/water injection involved? How big of an intercooler will I need? (see previous post above) If thers's someone out there running on 15 psi on stock cubes without a power adder, show me a link. Since probably during your searching you missed THIS post, let me say it here... GMR's TT kit and 20 PSI. Since this car is obviously going to have to pass emissions (see "tree-hugger" post above) it should NOT have to be stated that I won't be using race gas. Around where I live, and for the sake of argument, that's anything above 93 octane.

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2) You posted in another forum that you wanted to move to Texas. You liked their new 80mph law.
Yes I sure did post that, but that one law doesn't familiarize me with your emissions laws now does it? Apples to apples my friend.






Now, before everyone gets his panties in a tighter bunch or more sand in their vaginas, realize that my question was and still is How do the [Carrillo H-Beams] with the 285,000 psi bolts hold up? That's what I want to know, nothing else. So quit worrying about HOW I get to or exceed my 1000 HP goal.
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LOL@this whole ******* thread and this dumbass who obviously knows **** about performance cars.
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lason
LOL@this whole ******* thread and this dumbass who obviously knows **** about performance cars.
well lol @ yourself since you keep posting here.





I'll ask again anyway...
How do the Carrillo H-Beams with the 285,000 psi bolts hold up?
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Old Jun 1, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Somebody09
well lol @ yourself since you keep posting here.





I'll ask again anyway...
How do the Carrillo H-Beams with the 285,000 psi bolts hold up?
For 1,000hp you'll be fine, especially with a dyno queen. The power ratings are for an endurance engine and don't really mean anything for a drag car. I've seen Eagle H-beams support 1300hp but are only "rated" to 700 I believe. The Carrillos will support more rwhp than a dynojet can measure.
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I've got the perfect solution to your problem. It sounds like money isn't an issue (I wish that I had that problem), so you should call Wheel 2 Wheel and leave them a blank check, and tell them what you want, unless you want to build it yourself, then you should call Wheel 2 Wheel and ask them about which parts are best. They have built quite a few 1000 rwhp cars, and have the first LSx based motor in the Sixes. Just my .02.

Best of Luck to you!
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Originally Posted by LuvmyC5
I've got the perfect solution to your problem. It sounds like money isn't an issue (I wish that I had that problem), so you should call Wheel 2 Wheel and leave them a blank check, and tell them what you want, unless you want to build it yourself, then you should call Wheel 2 Wheel and ask them about which parts are best. They have built quite a few 1000 rwhp cars, and have the first LSx based motor in the Sixes. Just my .02.

Best of Luck to you!
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1000HP car is going to be a major pain in the *** to have though...I can't see any amount of money that will make it even somewhat reliable, but what do I know, I live in TX too....
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1000HP car is going to be a major pain in the *** to have though...I can't see any amount of money that will make it even somewhat reliable, but what do I know, I live in TX too....
The latest Motor Trend has some american supercars with some huge hp/tq numbers vs a C6 Z06. Some seemed more "streetable" than others. But if you just want to run it on a dyno, give her hell.
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