so confused which will perform better in a m6 w/ 4.10

 

The MS3 will perform better at the track, on a dyno and in a race. However, the Torquer 2 will maintain some street manners and still make good numbers. There are a lot of members on here running both cams in their daily drivers and from what I've read the MS3 guys swear it's a fine DD with a good tune.

 

my MS3 + heads is still untuned. with my cutout open its loud and crazy but fun. with the cutout closed its not bad at all.

 

tuned properly the ms3 drives like stock, no surging what so ever. let me know if interested.

 

I was actually suprised how tame my MS3 acted and sounded when compared to my old F14. I still have some pretty bad surging down low sometimes though .

Kevin

 

I have the MS3. I dig it. I drive an A4 and it behaves descently. Sounds awesome too. Pulls super hard up top.

 

I would go with MS3

 

I like my torquer 2. I dont want to spin my stockl short block up that high. Since my car is a dialy driver, i wanted to keep my low end torque and not trade it all for power up top.

 

the torquer isnt exaclty lacking much power up top...LOL mine pulls like a beast and iot has great street manners in my m6. daily driven

 

you don't have to spin the ms3 high to make power, mine shifted at 6400 and went 11.7 on a full weight car with a mail tune. the ms3 sounds nasty and when tuned PROPERLY it will drive like stock

 

would like to see some graphs comparing the T2 to the MS3

 

ive was looking at the 233/239 from tsp how would that compair to low mid and top end power to the v.2
and what would i have to spin it to

 

Shifting it at 6400 leaves much on the table. And I dont know how you could possibly say a cam like this drives like stock. Maybe a good tune can have a big cam driving surprisingly well considering the size, but saying it drives like stock just isnt accurate, IMO. Maybe its different for us M6 guys, as we get a bunch of bucking without the torque converter to buffer it out.

 

torque converter has nothing to do with it, scott my tuner used his wideband and had my a/f down to a dime. i could lug it around 1200 rpm's with the converter locked up no surging what so ever. it all about a/f, you nail that and it fixes all.

 

I have a manual and I think I am leaning to the MS3.

 

you don't have to spin the ms3 high to make power, mine shifted at 6400 and went 11.7 on a full weight car with a mail tune. the ms3 sounds nasty and when tuned PROPERLY it will drive like stock



From who you both the mail order tune?

 

i have one for sale with 600 miles, pm me if interested.

 

The torquer II will make about 10 hp less then the MS3.

 

hows the 233/239 fit in to the mix of ms3 and v.2?

 

bump, curious too.