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Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
224r 114 LSA or 228r 114 LSA, the 231/237 has a veyr choppy idle
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From: Miami
Originally Posted by raptorws6
my cam(in sig) is not a TSP but it is pretty much the same size, and i love it. it sounds very mean, and very lopey it is on a 112 and it idles just as good as the stock one did, it is very driveable mine is my daily driver i have had no problems with it. but as i have seen many people on here say it is all in the tune. so i would say the 231/237 on a 112.
The more aggressive the lobe, the better the driveability, the more usable the torque curve.
The TSP 231/237 will be easy on springs, make great peak hp numbers with proper intake and exhaust mods, lope very hard, but it will be harder to tune and be less driveable and make less usable torque than a cam on an XER lobe.
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From: Kansas City, MO
Originally Posted by Ehatcher
But what about its drivability traits? Will it behave on the street? not stall out and die?
Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
its all in the tune, i know of a couple people that daily drive the TREX and a bunch that DD the MS3 with like stock drivability. So if its stalling out and dying than u need a new tuner, its not the cam. and i LOVE my torquer. I daily drive it and it drives like stock, except for the choppy idle which i love. Look into the torquer
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Originally Posted by Ehatcher
I dont want to sit in traffic and have to worry about it dying ... thats what i meant for a stable idle .. Choppy and lopey is what i would like. I just want the car to be able to be driven without worries of it stalling out or dying. the car will be driven 5 times a week on average. choppy , lopey with a little roughness is fine... i would love for it to be stable enough to handle occassional stop and go traffic. Most of my driving is more or less highway driving.
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Originally Posted by BLACKNREDSS
its all in the tune, i know of a couple people that daily drive the TREX and a bunch that DD the MS3 with like stock drivability. So if its stalling out and dying than u need a new tuner, its not the cam. and i LOVE my torquer. I daily drive it and it drives like stock, except for the choppy idle which i love. Look into the torquer
I daily drive the MS3. In 19 months it has died twice, and both incidents were entirely my fault. It does surge at idle from time to time, but it's nothing major and typically only occurs at idle shortly after starting the car.
Have you considered the 233/239? Same basic idea as the 231 but a little bigger and has more aggressive lobes....
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I'm building a stock dis. ls1 for my 92 and I was going to go with a texas giant and some stage 2 "maybe stage 3" 243 heads. I'll be useing the victor jr. e.f.i. intake with a tb elbow and a 90mm tb. With a 150 shot it should run 9.70's-10.0's. I'm going with a 6 speed and plan to drive the car on the street at least two times a week. "I drive 50-75 miles a day." But on the same token, I'm the kind of person that can never get enough "two runs going 11.0's with the old 350 and I needed more". 
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oh yeah when i talked to tsp abuot the 231/237 cam they said they were out and the next cam similar was the torquer v.2. im not sure if they were out of stock or they just arent producing it any more..but just thought id give you a heads up!
and make the right choice: TORQUER II
and make the right choice: TORQUER II
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I was pretty happy with my 228R on 112 when the car was a daily driver except in heavy traffic with the stock 3.42 gear. My car has a choppier idle at 850RPM than the red vette link someone had earlier that was on 114 (it may have been idling high). Other than slow moving traffic the car drove great. I still enjoy the cam, although now that it is not my DD I wish I would have gone bigger like a 233/239. You will enjoy whatever you get.
