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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:09 PM
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my 98 ta make 19psi at a hot idel....the motor has 75k on it. Do you think its the oil pump? or is it geting tired?
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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i have to ask.

do you have any oil in the car?
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I agree, check your oil level first and report back.
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Yes.............im runign 5w30 mobile 1
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
Yes.............im runign 5w30 mobile 1
Well the 5w30 isn't the preferred viscosity for the LS1 with Mobil, 0w40 or 5w40 is the best. With that said it won't make your car idle at 20 psi

I am guessing it's the pump, I wouldn't see an LS1 that was even half *** maintained getting that tired at your mileage.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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we run 5w30 in all 4 f-bodys in the family including my 408 in my camaro and there all making 40+ at a hot idel. Now i no the 98 have problems with the oil pumps. If im changeing the pump im gona thro in a mild cam.
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Old Jul 8, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
we run 5w30 in all 4 f-bodys in the family including my 408 in my camaro and there all making 40+ at a hot idel. Now i no the 98 have problems with the oil pumps. If im changeing the pump im gona thro in a mild cam.
Like I said, the 5w30 isn't gonna make it idle like that, but it's still not the viscosity that you should be using in an LSx engine. For the best protection you should use one of the ones I mentioned.

About the cam install, that's a GREAT excuse for a time to do it Good luck!
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did a new mellings pump today and dident make any diff
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Originally Posted by 1984camaroz28
did a new mellings pump today and dident make any diff
Maybe it's time for an A pillar and some good gauges
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Old Aug 19, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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20 psi isn't that bad really. You only need about 10 psi per 1000 rpm to adequately lubricate the engine. Also remember that the factory gauges are close at best. If it worries you that much I'd put a mechanical gauge on it.
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
Maybe it's time for an A pillar and some good gauges
nope already swaped gauges and no difff
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Well what else could it be besides worn internal parts?
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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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what does it look like at WOT and normal driving
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Well, here's my input. I just did a cam,spring, oil pump swap and have low oil press. When you fire up the motor cold, it makes 40-45 psi, then as it warms up it drops to 18-20 psi. Then at the lower oil press. the lifters start to collapse and clatter.I changed the pump back out and still the same problem. And no the o-ring is fine. The only thing I have left in mind is that a cam bearing moved and uncovered an oil gallery. Keep you updated.
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before you do anything change the oil with 40wt using a decent filter.
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Originally Posted by Billy177
before you do anything change the oil with 40wt using a decent filter.
His oil pressure shouldn't be what it is, and putting in a thick viscosity to try and "bandaid" it, is not going to solve the problem.
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my car runs very very strong....there aint a ls1 in my town with the same mods that can stay with it. im just gona keep driving it and start spraying it....another excuse for 1 more 408
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???? What about the 10psi per 1000 rpm benchmark.???? what have i missed in the last 40 years.... .............kossuth is right.

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Old Aug 20, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
???? What about the 10psi per 1000 rpm benchmark.???? what have i missed in the last 40 years.... .............kossuth is right.
I remember this too. I guess the problem is, going from 40+ psi at hot idle to 1/2 that is alarming (I would be concerned too).
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what does it look like at WOT and normal driving
Are you still getting an increase in psi as rpms rise? Does it meet the 10 psi/1000 rpm minimum? Any noise as described by Mr.Nitrous?
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I have also seen were the cams have smaller basecircles and move the lifters further away from were the need to be and its an internal oil leak but thats super rare. 10 psi per 1k is all thats needed and his engine(- some NOS damage) will probably last another 75k. I run 10w40 Castrol GTX in everything Ive ever owned dino based wise and will always will. It does give some more pressure but its a "bandaid" as said earlier for something amiss in the engine. I built an engine for my self back in the 90s that had 18-20 warm idle pressure and it was one of the best running engines I ever built. It did however have 60 or so psi going down the interstate at 3500 rpms.
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