Jason99T/A

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
<strong> [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason99T/A:
[qb] knew that your car was flying with this cam and stock heads. I know that as far as power is concerned the TR 224 is the way to go, but I am worried about the valvetrain. I do not want to replace valvesprings every 20K and I definately dont want to worry about breaking a spring on cold startup. Does anyone disagree when I say the the TR cams will be significantly harder on valvetrain than the others listed? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We have had a few customers with the TR224 cams using 918s springs for well over a year now with no issues. We just installed a set of stg 2 heads on one of the cars and tested the 918s that came off. They had only lost 3-4lbs on the seat w/ over 10k+ miles. I would still replace any valvesprings at least once every 1.5-2 years though with any aftermarket cam though. The springs are not that expensive and not hard to change. Just look at it as routine maintance (i.e. brakes, spark plugs, etc...).


Jason

niphilli

Thanks for the input Jason, I guess the TR cams are not out of the picture, they make incredible power. I will just have to decide on my own if it is worth changing springs more often.

Where are the rest of you MTI guys, Colonel, Nineball??

AINT SKEERED

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I am running the Hammer cam with mild ported heads,mostly just a valve job with 2.02 int valves installed. verry little done to the ports and am running very well for a full weight car that weighed 3682 at the thunder shootout and went 11.81 at 117 mph. and now running a best of 11.73 with a 1.73 60ft. and a best of 119.39 mph full weight. fully loaded t-top car

jleews6

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I know a guy in your area that will give you a good deal on a TR 224. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Nick. I might have some ported stock valve heads for you.I will flow them for you to.Email me.I will be here until sat night.

Biochem

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by notfastenough:
<strong> Biochem- do they do emisions checks on cars down thier in N.C.? i ask because my brother is gonna go to UTI tech school down there, and i know that he dosn't have cats on his car.
thanks
good luck with your car bro!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">He's screwed then <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> They are serious bastards in this area (Research Triangle Park) about trying to get as much money out of you as possible for trying to find ways to fail you (they offer to fix it of course). I love how a car that is only 1yr old has to get checked... WTF, like a normal person would mod their car after only a few months <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> He might be OK, only a few counties do the check... Raleigh/Durham/Chapel Hill and the Charlotte area are two of them.

niphilli

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by jleews6:
<strong> I know a guy in your area that will give you a good deal on a TR 224. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Nick. I might have some ported stock valve heads for you.I will flow them for you to.Email me.I will be here until sat night. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Buddy-Sent mail

DONAIMIAN

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Out of all thoes cams, your gona have to raise your rev limit. Valve springs arent as big of a deal, its just on how hard you drive your car. Go with the 224, you wont regrette it. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

XFiveLiter

Another vote for the C1 here. Time in sig was done w/o a pulley or LS6 intake, stock heads, at about 3425 raceweight <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Abdulla

niphilli

Thank you for this post , its a great post and has alot of information .

well niphilli if you excuze me I want to talk about another cam , its not one of those cams you talked about em , and it will not give the same power that those cams will give , but I loved it and it was cool with me .

its CompCam 212/218 .522/.529 114 , my best with this cam and with stock heads was 11.61 @ + 120 mph and with M6 car . That was before near to 2 years .

Before a year now I've got my beat with heads and a larger cam , its in my sign. Wish me luck to get into 10s with 346 c.i. N/A <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Thank you niphilli and good luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

niphilli

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Abdulla:
<strong> niphilli

Thank you for this post , its a great post and has alot of information .

well niphilli if you excuze me I want to talk about another cam , its not one of those cams you talked about em , and it will not give the same power that those cams will give , but I loved it and it was cool with me .

its CompCam 212/218 .522/.529 114 , my best with this cam and with stock heads was 11.61 @ + 120 mph and with M6 car . That was before near to 2 years .

Before a year now I've got my beat with heads and a larger cam , its in my sign. Wish me luck to get into 10s with 346 c.i. N/A <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Thank you niphilli and good luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for the kind words Abdulla.

That is a nice looking sleeper cam, and would definately be easy on the valve train. You sure did get some killer MPH, so I am sure you were making power, I will add this cam to the list above. Was this on just regular comp lobes or were they XE or XE-R lobes? Were you at full weight to get 120 MPH?

Good luck with 10's!

-Nick

Abdulla

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
<strong>

Thanks for the kind words Abdulla.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> and thank you Nick

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
<strong>Was this on just regular comp lobes or were they XE or XE-R lobes?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">regular comp lobes


</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
<strong>Were you at full weight to get 120 MPH??</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">no , it was something aroung 3300 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />


</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by niphilli:
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Good luck with 10's!?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thank you Nick <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Good luck

99taws6

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My vote is for the TR 224 on a 112lsa. This cam idles great. I have run a best of 11.94 @ 113 with some tuning left to go. This is on stock heads w/bolt-ons. I broke a 941 when I first installed the cam, but have had no problems out of the 918's.

StreetStalkerZ

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You can't go wrong with any of those cams IMO. I run the B1 cam with 918 springs with probably around 15K miles on the 918s with NO problems.

I gained 31rwhp with STOCK tuning with the B1 cam in my A4 but have yet to dyno with tuning,since my local dyno sold out.

My ET's are in the sig and i still have yet to add the LS6 intake,ASP pulley,FT ram air or true dual X pipe exhaust. Im looking for 11.40s with my current setup with a good 60ft. along with 4.10s <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> and looking for LOW 11s with the mods i don't have. I think in all out ET gains i gained a solid .3 tenth with the cam and tuning compared to my bolt on times but i also lost over a 100lbs off the car to make up the .1 difference between 11.96 bolt ons Vs. 11.56 cam only times. Hope i was of some help to you.

Fenris Ulf

The B1 cam took one of my friends past 400 rwhp with stock heads, but there is no way it will be optimized with a stock limiter FYI.

VTtransam

What's up Nick, good thread you've got going here. I think you may need to bump up the rev limiter with all (except maybe the zo6 cam) of the cams you are considering to reach the cam's full potential. I've heard all good things about the hammer cam but I'd go with the TR 224 112 or 114. Let's be honest here, you know you are going to get a set of ported heads down the road <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> and the TR 224 (and others) works well with stock heads for the mean time. As far as valvetrain wear, again, most of those cams (except maybe the zo6 cam) are gonna put some wear and tear on the valvetrain. Maybe jleews6 could hook you up with those heads and just have then fitted with a set of double springs, that might ease your concerns some. I was going to just do a cam before I decided on heads too and the TR224 112 was the cam recommended to me, along with the T1, C1, and C2 from MTI. I'm kinda partial to the TR 224 but I'm sure you'll be happy with any one of those cams <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />

SSilver

I installed my TR 224 114 LSA on saturday and it feels great. Definate pickup on power from about 2k RPMs to redline. This is still on stock tuning also. Idles great with the stock idle, no surging, and I'd say it is just as streetable as the stock cam. No real compromise that I can see.

I'll have to get it on the dyno and see what it does before and after tuning.

niphilli

Thanks to all that replied to this thread. Sounds like most of these cams would work great on stock heads. I guess the only thaing that is not realistic is the stock Rev-limiter. In all my favorites are the B1 or T1 and the TR 224 on 112 or 114, only constraint being that the valvetrain would need more maintenence on the TR grind cams. I think I will probaly end up with a B1 and 914s.

-Nick

eric m

What about the TR 227 224 114 lsa reverse split cam? Many C5ers are saying this is the best cam to install for stock heads C5. Would I be better off with the TR 224/224? What do you'll think? I'm about to order it so any information would be appreciated.

Jason 98 TA

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Don't rule out a 220 cam! I agree the 224 setup does make great power, but IMHO a 220 cam would probably drive really close to stock & still make good power. We have 220, 224, & 228 cams instock, but most of the time we sell a 220 for street vehicles.

John B

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I seriously doubt you will get almost 400 to the wheels with a T1 cam and stock heads and just a few bolt ons. If it were that easy everybody would have 400 to the wheels. Be realistic.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Really? Then how do you explain my 391 RWHP/371 RWTQ with stock heads and the B1 cam?