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Old 08-28-2006, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Pewterme
FYI, My numbers before the cam with a tune (after my headers install) were 339 rwhp and 350 rwtq. So I picked up 45 rwhp and 32 rwtq. The graph in the other thread just shows the difference between installing dot to dot and then having the cam degreed. Dot to dot was probably around 112 ICL where it should have been installed on a 109 ICL. Degreeing bumped it up where it should have been. I was hoping for closer to 400 rwhp, my tuner said if I have an underdrive pulley, no cats and got rid of the heavy azz stock wheels it probably would be there. Never the less, triple digit speeds come quite quick and I've been very pleased with this cam.


Looks like I hit the nail on the head.
45/32 gains are very good. I can't think of anyother mod that will give you these gains except heads or FI.
Nice combo.
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I agree, very nice #'s! Did this cam need the 4.10's, or did you already have them? I'm interested in a similar cam, but want to keep my stock 3.42's, so I may need to look at something a little smaller.
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No, it doesn't need 4.10s
It is a high trq cam so 3.42s will work great.
Old 08-28-2006, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
386/382 not good enough???
That is through 4:10 gears and cam only + bolt ons.
Look at the curve, 325lbs of trq at 2500 rpm andd 340+ at 3000
I think that says it all. This is not a max HP cam it is a true Torque cam.
This seems like a dumb question, but what does 4.10 gears have to do with dyno numbers? Do numerically higher gears adversely affect dyno readings?
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I have that exact cam 228/232 110+2. I make 390rwhp and 367rwtq cam only with bolt ons (no pulley) and 4.10s. Gained 50rwhp and 15rwtq with cam. Probably have little more to it if I took rpms past 6600 limiter. I love it with my exhaust it lopes hard, and moves good I have sound clip somewhere I'll see if I can find it. Heres the graph. Red= bolt ons.

Edit: First startup with cam cam
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Degree that cam and you'll gain more trq. A 15 rwtrq gain means something is wrong and your cam is prolly installed retarded.
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How? I lined it up dot to dot... Was I supposed to do it different? I kinda thought it would make more torque, but wasn't sure.
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Has nothing to do with dot to dot, all cam swaps should be degreed to make sure they are installed at specs desired. Meaning you physically need to make sure the cam is installed on a 110+2
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in your vid it said you had 4.25 push rods why the longer ones from 4.00?

Originally Posted by okls1
I have that exact cam 228/232 110+2. I make 390rwhp and 367rwtq cam only with bolt ons (no pulley) and 4.10s. Gained 50rwhp and 15rwtq with cam. Probably have little more to it if I took rpms past 6600 limiter. I love it with my exhaust it lopes hard, and moves good I have sound clip somewhere I'll see if I can find it. Heres the graph. Red= bolt ons.

Edit: First startup with cam cam
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Originally Posted by Built LT1
This seems like a dumb question, but what does 4.10 gears have to do with dyno numbers? Do numerically higher gears adversely affect dyno readings?
In theory you will loose a little more HP to the rear wheels through a higher ratio gear. This is due to an increase in parasitic losses. The slight differences between ratio's however is no where near the difference you would see when going to a beefier rear end like a 12 bolt or Dana, or worst of all the Ford 9". The Ford losses the most of these not only because of the larger ring gear (except for the Dana which is even larger), but also because of the pinion to ring gear orientation. This makes it just about the most HP robbing axle out there, but also just about the strongest (judge is still out on the Dana allthough it should rob less HP).
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Originally Posted by Pewterme
FYI, My numbers before the cam with a tune (after my headers install) were 339 rwhp and 350 rwtq. So I picked up 45 rwhp and 32 rwtq. The graph in the other thread just shows the difference between installing dot to dot and then having the cam degreed. Dot to dot was probably around 112 ICL where it should have been installed on a 109 ICL. Degreeing bumped it up where it should have been. I was hoping for closer to 400 rwhp, my tuner said if I have an underdrive pulley, no cats and got rid of the heavy azz stock wheels it probably would be there. Never the less, triple digit speeds come quite quick and I've been very pleased with this cam.
So it was dyno'd through the cats... I wonder how much that impacted the numbers. Other than the LG's what is the rest of your exhaust set up. It would be interesting to see if you would pick up some HP with cutouts and how much if so.
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I've got a FTI 227/231 575/578 on a 111 ICL with AFR 205 heads, awesome torque curve (350 at 3K). No need for higher gears, the 3:42's are plenty with this much torque. Not exactly a 228/232 but close. Road race cam.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No, it doesn't need 4.10s
It is a high trq cam so 3.42s will work great.
awsome! thats what I wanted to hear.
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Originally Posted by silverZ98
in your vid it said you had 4.25 push rods why the longer ones from 4.00?
The cam I used, being on an XER lobe, has a smaller base circle the stock. In order to keep the valvetrain geometry in better order I used 4.25 pr to make up the difference. I had some people on here tell me 7.425 was better for my cam. Pedator-Z has lots of knowledge on the subject and I followed his advice.
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if okls1's afr was more flat would he get my horsepower and torque? isnt the richer u are more horsepower u get and the leaner u are the more torque u gain????
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Originally Posted by JZ'sTA
I have a dynojet, and I will give you free dyno pulls if you can make anything over 430 RWHP with that combo.
Not the best head using the 241 heads, no 90/90 a decent cam, okay exhaust, no UD pulley.
Sorry if I come off like a dick but I don't know where you get 430+HP on a dynojet.
In fact I will even give you a hundred bucks if I am wrong.
If your in Florida look me up one day.
Ok so I have my mustang dyno sheet in front of me and it reads 393.60 rwhp at 6200rpm and 352.02 tq at 5000rpm .I have been told by most everyone you can had 10-15% for using a dynojet dnyo.I used 10% and it comes out to 432.96 rwhp and 387.22 tq. Correct if I am wrong.I could use 15 % but that would be more
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if the cam is a 110+1 it has a 109 icl
it gets installed dot to dot?
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Not all mustang dyno's read that low. The only real way to figure it out is to go on a dyno jet.
There is a Mustang dyno owned by Brethless performance that spit's out more HP then our dyno does.
It is the way the owner sets his mustang dyno up.
You don't live in Fla do you? If so your more then welcome to use our's and if I am wrong then you should be very happy. You have awsome power for your combo plus 100 bucks and free dyno pulls.
Can't beat that.

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Iam in Ohio. I have relation in winterhaven.I am not saying wow I have this much power or bragging,etc.I was just stating what I have and know at this time with my set up and paperwork to back it up.Maybe a little less or maybe more.Florida is a little to far away.Will keep your info though.I need a vacation.
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