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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:52 PM
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I'm looking for a good cam for my z06. Right now, i dyno 378rwhp with LT's and an X. No cold air, all stock intake and no tuning.

What would be the best cam for a wicked idle, maybe nitrous on a stock shortblock WITH OUT flycutting.

Basically I want to throw a cam in, and change the springs. That's pretty much it.

I think I can get 400rwhp with just a CAI and a tune as it sits now. So i'd like to see some gains to merit the cam expense.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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usually to reach 400rwhp on the ls6 others also add underdrive pulley, EWP and/or CAI.

curious to see what cam you choose too.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:13 PM
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MS3 IMO if your looking for a mean idle and good power from 2500-6800 rpms. With an MS3 and all the bolt ons youd be in the 430+ rwhp range, maybe even over 440 rwhp with a good tune.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 08:15 PM
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here is a clip of my 232/238 cam at idle with headers/ory/magnaflow:

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MS3 IMO if your looking for a mean idle and good power from 2500-6800 rpms. With an MS3 and all the bolt ons youd be in the 430+ rwhp range, maybe even over 440 rwhp with a good tune.

Thats the cam i've always wanted since it first came out.

Questions about it:
Would it be possible to go on say an 800 mile trip with it?
What kind of gas mileage are people getting?
Say I get this cam. Are new springs all I need and if so, which ones?
How good is it for nitrous?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DoesSpeedTurnUon
Thats the cam i've always wanted since it first came out.

Questions about it:
Would it be possible to go on say an 800 mile trip with it?
What kind of gas mileage are people getting?
Say I get this cam. Are new springs all I need and if so, which ones?
How good is it for nitrous?
1. After a tune, it would be no problem to go on a trip, although you will more than likely experience some bucking and surging at low rpms
2. Can't honestly answer that one, but highway should still pull 20+
3. I would go with the complete cam package from TSP. That would include springs (PRC duals), retainers, seats, valve seals, hardened PRs, etc. I would also look into an LS2 chain
4. It will love the juice
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Originally Posted by BriancWS6
1. After a tune, it would be no problem to go on a trip, although you will more than likely experience some bucking and surging at low rpms
2. Can't honestly answer that one, but highway should still pull 20+
3. I would go with the complete cam package from TSP. That would include springs (PRC duals), retainers, seats, valve seals, hardened PRs, etc. I would also look into an LS2 chain
4. It will love the juice
I've also thought about the 231/237.. any thoughts on that one?

Is an LS2 chain, direct bolt on?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DoesSpeedTurnUon
I've also thought about the 231/237.. any thoughts on that one?

Is an LS2 chain, direct bolt on?
The 231/237 is a proven cam, but it's an old design on a considerably lazier lobe than the newest breed of XER and LSK lobed cams. A cam that would be close to that one, but actually be better because of the XER lobes, offering more power under the curve as well as more peak, would be the 233/239, also from TSP.

Yes, the LS2 chain is a direct bolt-on replacement for the weaker LS1 chain. You just need to remove the oil pump to swap out the chains. Here is a pic of the two chains.
http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=620&catid=53
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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The MS3 would be good for a Z06, but you'll loose low end trq (not that it matters with a lightweight vette)
You already have nice gears with the M12, so I (meaning me) would get a set of 918's with PRC titanium retainers, shim the springs to .050 coilbind and that my friend will give you one of the best high reving setups with those light sodium filled valves you already have. 7.425 p-rods as well (Comp Cam).
Such a lightweight effective moving valvetrain mass will give a few horses as well.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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MS4 Cam only. Its mean. Mine will be running this weekend.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
MS4 Cam only. Its mean. Mine will be running this weekend.
will it work with out fly cutting?
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:07 AM
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I'd say go with the 231/237 COMP grind(not the TSP grind which has lunati lobes) for an all around streetable yet, bad *** ripper. With this cam, if you decide to go with some heads, you wont have to worry as much about PtV clearance issues as much like you would with other cams. It also has a decent split, so nitrous would work GREAT with this cam.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 02:11 PM
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Go with the MS3, you will love it and it makes awesome power. As someone else already said if you have a good tuner you could easily daily drive the car with the MS3. Gas mileage isnt going to be great but if your talking about crusing in 6th gear on the highway you should get decent mileage but around town it will go down. You will need new springs with the cam, and I would suggest either comp duals, prc duals (what I have), or patriot duals, but any of those 3 will do the job. you should also invest in some titanium retainers and hardened pushrods. As for nitrous MS3 works well with it, as does any cam, but unless your spraying say a 200+ shot of nitrous any cam will work well and your decision should be more on what you want to make NA rather than on the spray.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Why would anyone put heavy duals on a set of lightweight valves. Kinda beat the purpose, don't you think.
The 918's would be perfect for that cam and those valves.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
Why would anyone put heavy duals on a set of lightweight valves. Kinda beat the purpose, don't you think.
The 918's would be perfect for that cam and those valves.
He can go with shimmed 918's if he wants...I just like the added protection of the dual valve springs...
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lilbuddy1587
I'd say go with the 231/237 COMP grind(not the TSP grind which has lunati lobes) for an all around streetable yet, bad *** ripper. With this cam, if you decide to go with some heads, you wont have to worry as much about PtV clearance issues as much like you would with other cams. It also has a decent split, so nitrous would work GREAT with this cam.
Incorrect. The TSP uses Comp lobes.

If you want over 400 rwhp go with a TSP Torquer cam with the PRC dual spring kit (comes with ti retainers) and dont look back. Power comes on hard at 3000 rpms and doesnt go away till after 7000. I made well over 450 rwhp in my ZO6 with this set up.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 2scoot
Incorrect. The TSP uses Comp lobes.

If you want over 400 rwhp go with a TSP Torquer cam with the PRC dual spring kit (comes with ti retainers) and dont look back. Power comes on hard at 3000 rpms and doesnt go away till after 7000. I made well over 450 rwhp in my ZO6 with this set up.
Sorry but your wrong. The original poster was right. The TSP 231/237 DID in fact use Lunati lobes. They do use Comp for all the other grinds that I am aware of FWIW.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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i'd suggest something like 236/244 .590-.600 lift on a 110+0 lsa using xe-r lobes. this way you can utilize the shimmed 918s, make great power, and still shift south of 7k. the car being lighter in comparison to an f-bod will help offset the duration/lsa combo. a good tune is a must for any cam, especially one like i mentioned.

when changing cams - i say go big or go home. i'm sure no one will argue that opinion.

the only downside i see to the aforementioned cam is the fact that you'd have to be on top of your valvesprings...in order to catch fatigue before fragging some valves/pistons.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by s346k
i'd suggest something like 236/244 .590-.600 lift on a 110+0 lsa using xe-r lobes. this way you can utilize the shimmed 918s, make great power, and still shift south of 7k. the car being lighter in comparison to an f-bod will help offset the duration/lsa combo. a good tune is a must for any cam, especially one like i mentioned.

when changing cams - i say go big or go home. i'm sure no one will argue that opinion.

the only downside i see to the aforementioned cam is the fact that you'd have to be on top of your valvesprings...in order to catch fatigue before fragging some valves/pistons.

I like the sound of that, and i agree, go big or go home. Like i said, i can get damn close to 400rwhp with the stock LS6 cam. I want to make it WORTH the money.

Whats this 110+0 cam you're talking about? If i went to some 921's or PRC doubles, would i have to stay on top of the springs? I want a low maintence big cam in other words! lol. (if there is such a thing)
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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F14 from Futral!! No one else makes torque numbers like his cams and the new high lift is a beast. The LG G5x3 is a nice choice as well.
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