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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DaddySS
There should be sticky in big letters....do not use a bolt to pull the balancer on!
I completely agree with you. But then again, that's kinda what the search feature is for.

Anyways, it does sound like the threads in the crank are messed up. I hope it doesn't cost you too much $$$ to get this fixed. Maybe even time for a stroker?? Good luck to you.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
HOW do you drill and tap?? Does the Crankshaft have to come out for this??
I had this happen to me and instead of f-ing it up even more I took it to a reputable shop and they charged me $350. On the bright side though, I'll never use an OEM crank bolt again. I would not reccomend doing the drill and tapping yourself, but that's just me.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 06:17 PM
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I used a impact gun to put mine on didnt have any problems, I first got a 2x4 and put it on the pulley and hit it with a hammer and then once the bolt was threaded a little hit it up with the impact gun.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Krab
I completely agree with you. But then again, that's kinda what the search feature is for.

Anyways, it does sound like the threads in the crank are messed up. I hope it doesn't cost you too much $$$ to get this fixed. Maybe even time for a stroker?? Good luck to you.

Well if I thought it was going to be an issue then I would have searched on it. But when a VERY REPUTABLE SHOP says thats how they have done it, I would tend to believe them. I have been around here long enough to know how to search. But when you are flippin out cause you just did something stupid, you kinda forget those little things. hehe I DEFFINATELY thought about a stroker, my wifes behind me 110%. That helps ALLOT.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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I feel for you man! The same thing happened to someone I know a little while back. Ever since then I have been using the threaded rod method and using anti-sieze with it for extra pre-caution.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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If you take a propane torch or maybe even a good heat gun and heat the snout of the balancer enough to where it transfers heat to the snout of the crank and put pressure on the bolt in reverse it will likely come out then.

Of course from what you have already said the crank will probably have to be redrilled and tapped or pressed on somehow and pinned.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
Well if I thought it was going to be an issue then I would have searched on it. But when a VERY REPUTABLE SHOP says thats how they have done it, I would tend to believe them. I have been around here long enough to know how to search. But when you are flippin out cause you just did something stupid, you kinda forget those little things. hehe I DEFFINATELY thought about a stroker, my wifes behind me 110%. That helps ALLOT.
You live, you learn. It's awesome that your wife is backing you up on this and isn't jumping down your throat like most would in a similar situation. From now on, I'm sure you'll consider one of those crank pulley install tools for future installs. Again, hope all turns out well.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Well a Machine Shop in the area says they can do it for around 200-250 and the shop is about 12 miles away. The tow company will take me there and back for 120. Thats not as bad as I expected. I was counting on 100 each way AT LEAST. The guy said that he just rolled out a truck with a stuck crank bolt 45 min ago. Anyway, Ive got my fingers crossed that he can fix it. Hes only been a machinist for like 30 years. hehe
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Keep us posted. Hope they can get it for you bud!
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
Well a Machine Shop in the area says they can do it for around 200-250 and the shop is about 12 miles away. The tow company will take me there and back for 120. Thats not as bad as I expected. I was counting on 100 each way AT LEAST. The guy said that he just rolled out a truck with a stuck crank bolt 45 min ago. Anyway, Ive got my fingers crossed that he can fix it. Hes only been a machinist for like 30 years. hehe
Wow, that is great news!!! Keep us posted on final results and let the group here know how he did it so the next poor soul who runs into this will know what to look for.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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I will deffinately keep you guys posted. Thanks for all the replys.
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 05:41 PM
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I threaded my old bolt in the crank with no issues at all. I put the pulley on as far as I could by hand and SLOWLY tapped on the balancer with a hammer and 2X4. Took like an hour to do it. Once I knew I had enough threads to pull the balancer on (five full turns on the bolt) I tightened the bolt to the ungodly amount of torque it requires. I think you may have gotton too anxious threading the bolt in. Oh and one word of caution, take your time tightening the rockers.
Don't it **** you off having an easy job turn to ****?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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I've pulled a couple on with the crank bolt and seen several more done that way without issue. We always use a longer bolt to pull it on with so you get more threads. This is probably a stupid question but I'll ask it anyway - Is there any chance you used a longer bolt and tried to crank it all the way in?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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No, didnt try to install it, just get it started.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
I will deffinately keep you guys posted. Thanks for all the replys.
Do you have an update on the work the shop is doing/done for you?
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Beasst8
Well a Machine Shop in the area says they can do it for around 200-250 and the shop is about 12 miles away. The tow company will take me there and back for 120. Thats not as bad as I expected. I was counting on 100 each way AT LEAST. The guy said that he just rolled out a truck with a stuck crank bolt 45 min ago. Anyway, Ive got my fingers crossed that he can fix it. Hes only been a machinist for like 30 years. hehe
Makes my $25 shipped to your door tool sound pretty cheap.

I have 4 tools left for sale.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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No offense to your entrepenuer efforts, but the same tool can be had anywhere that sells industrial nuts/bolts. The specs are 16m X 2.0 thread pitch, and 140-150mm in length, with a couple of washers. I got it a Fasteners, Inc. for about $5.
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Originally Posted by exSSer
No offense to your entrepenuer efforts, but the same tool can be had anywhere that sells industrial nuts/bolts. The specs are 16m X 2.0 thread pitch, and 140-150mm in length, with a couple of washers. I got it a Fasteners, Inc. for about $5.
Good for you. Not everyone has access to those stores. It's exactly people like you that will make me quit selling them again.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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Just got off the phone with my shop. He got the bolt out it tact. 45min and a 1200LBFT impact wrench. He said that the bolt was not even close to bottoming out. It looks as if when we started to back the bolt out, it just seized. All he has to do it straighten up the threads and she will be as good as new. Cant wait to get her back and running. We finished the install except for the water pump, power steering pump, radiator and induction stuff. Add some fluids, check over everything, look for leaks and pray as we turn the key. Ive been watching for more and more MS4 vids. So excited.
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Old Sep 14, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 2xLS1
Good for you. Not everyone has access to those stores. It's exactly people like you that will make me quit selling them again.
It's just people like me that ask questions, and give answers, when possible, to help others and ourselves. You're trying to make a buck, and I've got nothing against that, but I appreciate when others point out alternatives that save me money. I've gotten many such tips from this and other forums. In fact, this kind of networking is what these forums are all about. Sorry if I ruffled your feathers, but I said nothing that wasn't true. Many people prefer to have a solution handed to them, and care not of the dollars spent. I'm not in that group.
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