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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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I can't get the timing sprocket off the crank to put my roll master sprocket on. Should I use my original LS1 sprocket and chain? They only have 30,000 miles on them. Or should I order an LS2 chain and wait for it to come in? Any help would be appreciated.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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I can't get the timing sprocket off the crank to put my roll master sprocket on. Should I use my original LS1 sprocket and chain? They only have 30,000 miles on them. Or should I order an LS2 chain and wait for it to come in? Any help would be appreciated.
I used a puller to get mine off. Mine was not very hard to get off but just needed a little help. You might also try and pry it off carefully using two screw drives. Pullers are cheap at autozone,etc.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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Double rollers are in many cases overkill IMHO unless you're installing a monster cam and serious springs to go with it.

If you're installing a mild to medium cam and you have taken good care of your engine (only minor slack in the chain) the stock unit should be fine, LS2 is better if you want to wait or get a puller as stated above.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 07:42 PM
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I am installing a MS4 from TSP, and I am ready to get on with it. Should I just order a LS2 chain and wait for it to come in, or do you guy/girls think my stock chain is o.k. with only 30,000 easy miles on it.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 08:01 PM
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Use whatever puller you used to get the crank pulley off. This is what I had to do to get mine off.
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I am installing a MS4 from TSP, and I am ready to get on with it. Should I just order a LS2 chain and wait for it to come in, or do you guy/girls think my stock chain is o.k. with only 30,000 easy miles on it.
Go with the Dual setup and then you do not have to worry about it...

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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Use whatever puller you used to get the crank pulley off. This is what I had to do to get mine off.
Yeah what he said.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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Hell no, You already pulled the oil pump, which means you did alot of work on the oil pan to drop it. Replace it with the double roller. Of course its over kill,that good. Next replace the rocker arms down the road. My chain had 76,000 on it with all kinds of slack, and two girls had it before me, so that should tell you something about that single chain crap.
Summit sent the wrong chain to me so I have to go back in and replace the chain next week sometime. Stock arms lasted four days , intake side fell apart. Really do not understand that one since I know people running close to 500rwhp strokers and using oem rocker arms w/ big cams. Everybody also said that it would be over kill and waste of money. I never ran the car above 4,000 due to the fact that I wanted to get a new chain first.
Iam getting some PRW adjustable 1.7ratio roller rockers with the guide plates and poly locks. While Iam it I might aswell go ahead and replace the rods bolts aswell, just some piece of mind $hit. So if any thing flys apart it all my fault for revving it to high, not the oem crap. . I just hope that the lifters dont crap out until put on my zo6 heads.

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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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I threw the rollmaster single in my buddies and the LS2 chain in mine, and used the 3 jaw to get the old one off
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Like others have said....you spent the time getting that oil pan dropped and the pump off....

Go pick up a set of 3 arm gear pullers and it will come off.

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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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I use the LS2 chain in all my cam swaps, the new LS2 chain has slack; FWIW there are 800rwhp out there with the ls2 chain

Lou G.(LG) uses a single in his World Challenge Corvettes
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Use a puller to get it off. Use the old sprocket and the old bolt to press the new sprocket all the way on. Do not pry or bang on the crank shaft!
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:17 AM
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sounds like everyone agrees I should continue on and get the dual rollmaster on the crank. I have had 3 different pullers. the pullers that have the reach are to big to grab behind the sproket. The pullers that fit behind the sproket do not have a long enough reach. I guess I am going back to the store in search of a 3 arm puller that will work.
I do agree with everyone, that I have gone this far and might as well get the rollmaster on. I just wish there was another half inch between the sprocket, and the block so I could use the puller I have.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by '01HAWK
sounds like everyone agrees I should continue on and get the dual rollmaster on the crank. I have had 3 different pullers. the pullers that have the reach are to big to grab behind the sproket. The pullers that fit behind the sproket do not have a long enough reach. I guess I am going back to the store in search of a 3 arm puller that will work.
I do agree with everyone, that I have gone this far and might as well get the rollmaster on. I just wish there was another half inch between the sprocket, and the block so I could use the puller I have.
I rented a puller that came with extensions for the arms. It was a slight challenge to get it situated but once it was on there straight, the sprocket came off like buttah.

Good luck bro. Be patient, get the right tools, do the right thing.

PS don't drop anything in the oil pan
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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Well I found a puller that fits and it made the job simple. Now I have very little clearance between the new double chain and the oil pump. Yes I have the spacer behind the oil pump. They are allmost touching I will have to get a feeler gauge to check the clearance, but it looks to close to me. Anyone else run into this problem?
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Originally Posted by '01HAWK
Well I found a puller that fits and it made the job simple. Now I have very little clearance between the new double chain and the oil pump. Yes I have the spacer behind the oil pump. They are allmost touching I will have to get a feeler gauge to check the clearance, but it looks to close to me. Anyone else run into this problem?
I didn't because I'm running a single roller. What kind of oil pump are you running? Try a search, I'm sure this problem has been discussed/encountered.
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we had the same issue with a roller master hitting the oil pump. Had the spacers it came with as well
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