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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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Default Largest cam on LS6 (yellow) springs?

Going to bolt on a set of GTO 243's with a mild home port job and the yellow springs, and I'm wondering how large I can go on the cam. I imagine either an LPE GT2-3, or something like those old comp 216/220 .535 cams would be ideal. Any ideas? It's a budget project so I'm looking for a cam that I can find used for around $200...


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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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wouldnt go any bigger than .560
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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I have a Thunder Racing 218/224 if your interested.
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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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I know someone running a Comp 222/224 .566/.568 on a 112 LSA with those springs and no problems out to about 6,700 RPM. He got the cam from LPE if you want to check the specs.

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Old Sep 11, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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I know a guy running a 218/221 .559 .569 on a 5.3 in an '05 Silverado. Springs have well over 30K on them with no shimming and he beats the hell out of that motor.With those mentioned durations and lifts you will be fine. If you start getting close to the .570 lift I would stay away from durations much over 220. Just my .02.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Wow, 218/221 with those springs? Not bad!! Thanks for the info!
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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From what I understand, you can run a farely big cam for those springs and it will operate normally with very minimal to no valve float(Right?). But the real Question is the Life of the spring depending on which cam you throw at it. I'd be pretty uneasy about running anything like a 218/221 for 30k with ls6's.

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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 02:16 PM
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Sorry Terry, I stand corrected. The cam he is running with those springs is www.Vincihighperformance.com "Trucker" cam. Its actually a little different than what I thought.
DUR @ .004" 278*/ 286*
DUR @ .050" 216*/ 224*
* LIFT .551/.551
OVERLAP 53*
LSA 115*
Like I said, this truck has had the living **** beat out of it for well over 30K and still runs like a champ.
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My cam is 218/222-.562/.566-115 and I have yellow springs for about 8 months now. The Z06 cam is .550 so I figured what the hay with such short duration.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bo White
My cam is 218/222-.562/.566-115 and I have yellow springs for about 8 months now. The Z06 cam is .550 so I figured what the hay with such short duration.
Yeah, I wouldn't think that it would be that harsh on them anyway. Kind of like the 918's are good to .600 lift......wait .605......wait.....610....wait .615... You know how it goes.
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Old Sep 12, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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Thats right.....and IMO the 915 springs are just nonpainted Z06s.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Bo White
Thats right.....and IMO the 915 springs are just nonpainted Z06s.
Speckwise maybe but better alloy

TTT, do not look only at the lift, you can shim those "yellow" to handle much more than advertised, they can handle XE lobes .57x
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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Mark, are you saying that the comp material is better than the GM springs? Is it just impurities in the alloy that makes them stronger?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Been running my GT2-3 with the LS6 springs for 15k miles. .571/.578 lift. No problems at all.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Funny, when I posed this question I got answers 180* different than the ones posted here. I wanted to run LS6 springs with the MTI B1 (221/221 114 +2 .559/.559), and the general consensus was don't do it, the valves will float before it starts making power.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=391203

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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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I was told that you can run those LS6 springs with the GM ASA cam, 226/236 .525/.525 110LSA. I sure hope so, because this is the setup I was looking to run.
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JBIRD02
I was told that you can run those LS6 springs with the GM ASA cam, 226/236 .525/.525 110LSA. I sure hope so, because this is the setup I was looking to run.
Lift isn't as big as a problem as valve acceleration when using the LS6 springs. The older cams don't accelerate the valve as quickly as the newer stuff (also, less area under the curve), and they can get by without running as much spring pressure. That is, less spring pressure is required for valve stability with a mild lobe. As lobe profile increases in aggressiveness, the spring rate required to control the valves increases.

You could have to 230* lobes, one that's lazy and not so aggressive and easy on parts and get by with LS6 springs or, you could have a 230 lobe that is very aggressive (think high lift with short duration) and would not function properly (float the valves) with the LS6 springs.

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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 10:49 AM
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Wouldn't the cam profile/ramp rates affect the springs too?
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:12 PM
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ie read the yellows can handle .580" of lift, but id pay the extra 50 bucks to get 918s
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Old Sep 13, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Billiumss
Wouldn't the cam profile/ramp rates affect the springs too?
That's what the post right before yours was eluding to.

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