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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:06 PM
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I always hear of guys changing lifters on here. I have no plans to, but want to know if I should.
80k miles on the clock
changing heads and cam again soon
original stock cam in for 78k miles
224/.581 in for 2k miles
no symptoms of problems

Should I change lifters when I change heads? I mean, is there actually a risk of a problem with say, a G5X3 or similar cam?
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Old Sep 29, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Theoretically lifters should be changed when adding a new cam, even a hydraulic roller. Most people don't and get by without problems. The LS1 lifters are pretty well designed. Given the 80K on your stockers and the hint of the G5X3 cam makes it an easy answered question. Even a set of new stockers will be better than 80K originals. Springing for new lifters is well worth the money and you'll have the heads off anway.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan02SS
Theoretically lifters should be changed when adding a new cam, even a hydraulic roller.
where did you hear that?

rollers are made to be reused, as long as theyre not damaged they should be just fine unless youre running large lift or high rpm (6500+) new cam or not
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 06:40 AM
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Id change them as soon as they give you a problem, not before. Sadly ive had two different "problems" with my lifters thanks to a poorly finished cam last year.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 07:21 AM
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I recently purchased a new set since i was doing a H/C package.My car has 90K on the clock and two of the stockers were sticking(AKA Roller portion refused to move) Figured a few of the bearing must have taken a dump and it's not worth the risk (Or time as if i had to remove the heads AGAIN for just lifters i'd kick my own ***). They aren't expensive and if your replacing everything else in your valvetrain why not the lifters...?
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Ls2Sonoma
where did you hear that?

rollers are made to be reused, as long as theyre not damaged they should be just fine unless youre running large lift or high rpm (6500+) new cam or not
untrue, according to GM manuals, you need to change them with camshaft change.
sadly the LSx design requires heads to be removed and that is the biggest contributor to most cam only swaps not wanting to change.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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where did you hear that?

rollers are made to be reused, as long as theyre not damaged they should be just fine unless youre running large lift or high rpm (6500+) new cam or not
The info came from Morell. I've also heard a few of our Tech experts mention this also. I'm still on my stock lifters at 31K miles and the car has been cammed since 4K miles. Since they were low mile lifters I let them stay when I swapped heads. When i'm in there again they will be replaced. Lifters are cheap, shortblocks are not.
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 10:02 AM
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new LS1 lifters are 125 to your door from GMparts direct. no reason not to replace them if you have your heads off
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every roller that ive built we reuse the lifters, sometimes the cam too. never had any problems. i know changing the lifters can be a pain in the *** though
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Old Sep 30, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cop Car
new LS1 lifters are 125 to your door from GMparts direct. no reason not to replace them if you have your heads off
Got a PN for those? The only one I have is for individual lifters (17122490) and it shows them being around $35, each.
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I used Comp lifters when I switched cams because my stock lifters failed at 84k. Extra insurance so you don't wipe a lobe on a nice cam.
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