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Old Oct 15, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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i run 11:1 on 93 octane-no problems. i might bump it to 11.3:1
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FD3SLS1
Do to my current motor issue I'm have to put a motor together from spare parts. I have a 6.0l short block and the 59cc stage 2 ls6 heads off of my 5.7 and the compression will be about 11.2:1 with a .060 headgasket. Will that be too much for 93 octane or should I get a .075 headgasket to lower it to 10.9:1. The only other thing I can do is to put my stock 5.7 heads on it but I would really like to have my ported heads on it.
My Acura TL J35Z6 has the same compression as you and she's rated for 91 octane. And no. It's not a Japanese motor. It's design and built in Ohio. If you need pumo gas. Use Shell V-power. That's what I run and she never skips a beat.
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Old Mar 5, 2016 | 08:31 PM
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I ran 11:8:1 pump gas
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hammertime
The 'limit' is going to vary from car to car. Two cars running the same heads, cam, octane and tuned to the same timing may or may not have the same tolerance for detonation. Other factors that can effect octane tolerance:

Coolant Temps
Ambient Air/Inlet Air Temps
Underhood Temps
PCV System - Oil/Carbon deposits in the combustion chamber
Coatings on the valves/pistons/combustion chambers



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Exactly this. If you have the toys on the car like coatings and methanol injection and mega fans on top of more fans then you can be more reliable with higher compression ratios and poor fuel. But take all the helping mods away and I wouldn't push my luck, poor fuel alone with high compression.
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 08:18 AM
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No sir. Pretty much where I'm at and it runs great on 93.
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 08:25 AM
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My stock Mazda CX5 has 11:1 CR and runs on regular!

VVT allows that to happen...
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Old Mar 6, 2016 | 04:35 PM
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Holy back from the dead...who says search doesn't work?

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I know this is an old thread but have a few questions. I have a Gen 4 Iron Block 5.3 in my 2008 Silverado, 3.78" bore, 3.622" Stroke. I know not a Gen 3 but this is a good thread in regards to my question. My 243 heads are at PRC being ported and milled, I have not told them what to mill them to yet since they are closed on the weekend. My goal was the Mill them to 59cc, use a .045" head gasket to have my Quench / Squish at .038" with Flat top pistons (0cc) with no valve reliefs. I will be using 91 Octane gas, with my current cam and specs my Static compression will be at 10.82:1 and Dynamic Compression at 8.73:1. I have always been told that 8.7-8.8:1 is Max for 91, and I dont have 92 or 93 Octane where I live.

243 stock Chamber size is 64.45cc
Now is that to high or should I step down. I can have them milled less if anything
59.45cc = STC 10.75:1, DCR 8.68:1
60cc = STC 10.68:1, DCR 8.61:1
60.45cc = SCR 10.61:1, DCR 8.57:1
61cc = STC 10.54:1, DCR 8.51:1

Opinions please, this is my Daily and I tow my travel trailer with it.
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91 RS w/LS1 stroker LS6 etc see sig 11.3 to 1 compression - no knock or ping or issues on 93

99 TA see sig 10.8 compression will ping on 93 octane in summer at low rpm crusing in 6th gear. Decarbon treatment and new plugs help for a while. Car has 152,000 miles and 120,000 is with heads and cam package. Probably would benefit from a retune.
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Old May 22, 2016 | 02:27 PM
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I'm have a stock 2008 CC Silverado with the 5.3 (shorty headers and ram air) and it has a maxed out 87 octane custom tune.. It pings on 87, it pings on 89 depending on the time of the year and it runs perfect on 93.. It's a heavy truck on 33in tires.. With heavy trucks you have to be careful with how aggressive the tunes are especially if you tow..
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Originally Posted by 07NBSChevy
I know this is an old thread but have a few questions. I have a Gen 4 Iron Block 5.3 in my 2008 Silverado, 3.78" bore, 3.622" Stroke. I know not a Gen 3 but this is a good thread in regards to my question. My 243 heads are at PRC being ported and milled, I have not told them what to mill them to yet since they are closed on the weekend. My goal was the Mill them to 59cc, use a .045" head gasket to have my Quench / Squish at .038" with Flat top pistons (0cc) with no valve reliefs. I will be using 91 Octane gas, with my current cam and specs my Static compression will be at 10.82:1 and Dynamic Compression at 8.73:1. I have always been told that 8.7-8.8:1 is Max for 91, and I dont have 92 or 93 Octane where I live.

243 stock Chamber size is 64.45cc
Now is that to high or should I step down. I can have them milled less if anything
59.45cc = STC 10.75:1, DCR 8.68:1
60cc = STC 10.68:1, DCR 8.61:1
60.45cc = SCR 10.61:1, DCR 8.57:1
61cc = STC 10.54:1, DCR 8.51:1

Opinions please, this is my Daily and I tow my travel trailer with it.
I see you are in Nevada and towing a travel trailer. I would venture a guess that an 8.73 DCR is too much for a heavy truck and trailer combo that is heat soaked and pulling up some of the long passes out west. Keep your quench as that helps, but I would not go over 8.5 DCR.

Most vehicles I see pushing the boundaries with a high SCR and DCR are relatively light and run hard in short bursts. I think that your application is altogether different.
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Originally Posted by NewOrleansLT1
I'm have a stock 2008 CC Silverado with the 5.3 (shorty headers and ram air) and it has a maxed out 87 octane custom tune.. It pings on 87, it pings on 89 depending on the time of the year and it runs perfect on 93.. It's a heavy truck on 33in tires.. With heavy trucks you have to be careful with how aggressive the tunes are especially if you tow..
Agreed. I run NOTHING but 93, either Shell (first choice) or Chevron/Texaco.

A bottle of Techron every month helps TREMENDOUSLY also, the one good for 20 gallons.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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my car runs fine on 91 with approx 11.2:1

27.5* timing at WOT, 12.8 afr
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Old May 25, 2016 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dr_whigham
Agreed. I run NOTHING but 93, either Shell (first choice) or Chevron/Texaco.

A bottle of Techron every month helps TREMENDOUSLY also, the one good for 20 gallons.
How does the bottle of Techron help...just would like details.
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It just keeps the valves and pistons clean and burns off any excess carbon you may have. That's all I use it for. It's certainly not an octane booster, and that's not what I was implying.
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No one here should be running anything less than 91 octane...!!!
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Originally Posted by hammertime
I see you are in Nevada and towing a travel trailer. I would venture a guess that an 8.73 DCR is too much for a heavy truck and trailer combo that is heat soaked and pulling up some of the long passes out west. Keep your quench as that helps, but I would not go over 8.5 DCR.

Most vehicles I see pushing the boundaries with a high SCR and DCR are relatively light and run hard in short bursts. I think that your application is altogether different.
Appreciate the reply, I did tone it down a notch and will be running 8.49:1 DCR and 10.5:1 SCR on 91 octane. Quench is .037-.038". I was told I should not go over this and this would be ideal.
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