LS6 cam big upgrade for ls1?
LS6 cam big upgrade for ls1? would a ls6 cam/valve springs be a big upgrade for a ls1. its i believe 550/550 lift...not sure on duration. its low i believe...so would it be lopey like another cam?
Yep, not worth it. Figure the Z06 was rated 385 and the stock was rated 345-350...so the cam, intake and high flowing heads only accounted for 40 hp...but if you break it down with what people gain from the heads and intake, the cam is only 5-10 hp at most. Definitely not worth the time.
Go for a nice TR224 or 228, or the 224/228 which are all very popular, can run decently without a tune, and dont' compromise tons of low end torque like some of the super cams like the G5X3/Magic Sticks
Go for a nice TR224 or 228, or the 224/228 which are all very popular, can run decently without a tune, and dont' compromise tons of low end torque like some of the super cams like the G5X3/Magic Sticks
02-04 z06's are 405 at the flywheel but most people do it because they can pick up a used cam, springs, and pushrods for cheap on here. but if i were going to do all that work to change the springs out and cam i would definately spend the extra money and get a bigger cam and better springs.
z06 cam is awesome, it will gain you about 20hp peak, but over 50 at the redline, and with good valvetrain, the redline is much higher up, giving you a shitload more 'area under the curve.' drives stock, sounds stock, no difference until about 3500rpm.
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I've heard Z06 is good for 20-30 HP over stock LS1 cams. The specs aren't too bad for a cam you can pick up for practically nothing, the biggest problem is the wide LSA, the cam doesn't "hit" hard or have midrange punch. You have to rev to take advantage of it, which may not be the best idea with stock rod bolts. I am swapping my Z06 to something bigger, was scared of having to tune something too big. But I am not looking foward to tearing apart the car just to swap the cam, I'd do it once and get it over with, everyone seems happy with 224 range cams. I'm going to a 226/226 myself over the winter.
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Originally Posted by EdmontonSS
I've heard Z06 is good for 20-30 HP over stock LS1 cams. The specs aren't too bad for a cam you can pick up for practically nothing, the biggest problem is the wide LSA, the cam doesn't "hit" hard or have midrange punch.
The question was "would it be a big upgrade" for an LS1. If you assume LS1 heads, intake, with just an LS6 cam.....it isn't a big upgrade. JMO.
I put a 03 LS6 cam in my 98 Z28 with a lid and cutout and went from 312rwhp to 334rwhp A4. No it doesn't lope with a 117.5 LSA the specs are 204/218 551/547.
I was planning a FI route and then decided to go with the 216/220 525/532 114LSA Comp cam. Which would make a great DD cam or blower cam. I happen to have that, pushrods, install kit and arp bolts for sale. PM me if interested.
I was planning a FI route and then decided to go with the 216/220 525/532 114LSA Comp cam. Which would make a great DD cam or blower cam. I happen to have that, pushrods, install kit and arp bolts for sale. PM me if interested.
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Originally Posted by Billdog350
Yep, not worth it. Figure the Z06 was rated 385 and the stock was rated 345-350...so the cam, intake and high flowing heads only accounted for 40 hp...but if you break it down with what people gain from the heads and intake, the cam is only 5-10 hp at most. Definitely not worth the time.
Go for a nice TR224 or 228, or the 224/228 which are all very popular, can run decently without a tune, and dont' compromise tons of low end torque like some of the super cams like the G5X3/Magic Sticks
Go for a nice TR224 or 228, or the 224/228 which are all very popular, can run decently without a tune, and dont' compromise tons of low end torque like some of the super cams like the G5X3/Magic Sticks
don't listen to him, . . ls1s who slap in a ls6 cam gain about 30-35 horses, . .you'd usually see ls6 cam only cars on here at about 370-380hp, if you want to buy a cam, then yes he is correct, don't bother wasting your time/money/efforts. . . the tr224 is a good cam/ the 228/232 is a good cam but the g5x3 is extremely torquey down low . . . better DCR than the MS3 (which i personally think is overrated), . .
Well I have been with the LS6 cam only, did 372rwhp went 11.91 on drag radials, put some 243 LS6 heads 387rwhp went 11.77 on drag radials also with 3.73 gears stock 10 bolt rearend and my car is a 6 speed so if you are going to run the 02 LS6 cam you need to run atleast comp cams 918 valve springs and I also with the LS1 heads tried 7.45 and 7.40 pushrods and my car went faster with the 7.40 pushrods however valve train is a little noiser with 7.40 but that is what I did. Hope this helps you. YOU WILL BREAK ALOT OF PEOPLES HEARTS WITH IT.
Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
what the hell, all that lift and no lope. I don't understand. My brother's 355 TPI with a .500 crane compucam lopes alot more than my stocker cam.
Originally Posted by Function>Form
would a ls6 cam/valve springs be a big upgrade for a ls1. its i believe 550/550 lift...not sure on duration. its low i believe...so would it be lopey like another cam?
If you are buying a cam for lope. You are definitely buying a cam for the wrong reasons.
thats not the reason...its the exact opposite...im not sure if i wanted to go with a cam that wouldnt lope...to try and "hide" the fact its got a small cam or just get a f13/tr228/g5x3
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Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
what the hell, all that lift and no lope. I don't understand. My brother's 355 TPI with a .500 crane compucam lopes alot more than my stocker cam.
ok then what is it related to? duration? overlap? Sorry the search the doesn't work for me and I haven't been in the realm of internal engine knowledge yet. I've been studying the external engine board for about 6 months and haven't finished there yet haha.
Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
ok then what is it related to? duration? overlap? Sorry the search the doesn't work for me and I haven't been in the realm of internal engine knowledge yet. I've been studying the external engine board for about 6 months and haven't finished there yet haha.
