~~~A/F gauge question~~~
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ Yea because the 02's are also clicking over...the CPU is just adding and subtracting at idle...when you get on it or start driving it will set to one color...thats how you will find out.. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by 99taws6:
<strong>I have a toggle wired in, so I can switch from side to side. </strong><hr></blockquote>
So the a/f guage only reads from 1 O2 sensor at a time? So is it correct to say that you either have to get a toggle switch or have 2 guages to monitor both sensors?
Another Q: Does any manufacturer make an accurate a/f guage? I know the autometer is a popular choice, but someone mentioned it being innacurate.
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<strong>I have a toggle wired in, so I can switch from side to side. </strong><hr></blockquote>
So the a/f guage only reads from 1 O2 sensor at a time? So is it correct to say that you either have to get a toggle switch or have 2 guages to monitor both sensors?
Another Q: Does any manufacturer make an accurate a/f guage? I know the autometer is a popular choice, but someone mentioned it being innacurate.
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ The gauges are accurate..and you don't need a toggle switch because when you wire it, it reads both 02's...this is what it says on the instructions I have...it wires into the 02 section of the PCM wires...
Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>The gauges are accurate..and you don't need a toggle switch because when you wire it, it reads both 02's...this is what it says on the instructions I have...it wires into the 02 section of the PCM wires...</strong><hr></blockquote>
The gauges fluctuate, unless you have a true A/F gauge that reads volts.
The instructions have you tap a wire at the PCM... Correct. This however is not the wire for both O2's. Each o2 sensor has its own wire. You have 8 O2 wires to be exact. The ones that you use are the High Bank Sensor 1's.... You will either need 2 gauges or a toggle switch to get a reading from each one.....
<strong>The gauges are accurate..and you don't need a toggle switch because when you wire it, it reads both 02's...this is what it says on the instructions I have...it wires into the 02 section of the PCM wires...</strong><hr></blockquote>
The gauges fluctuate, unless you have a true A/F gauge that reads volts.
The instructions have you tap a wire at the PCM... Correct. This however is not the wire for both O2's. Each o2 sensor has its own wire. You have 8 O2 wires to be exact. The ones that you use are the High Bank Sensor 1's.... You will either need 2 gauges or a toggle switch to get a reading from each one.....
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ hmmmmmm, that is interesting. I always though it read both too. Guess not.
But 2 a/f guages would look cool on a firebird in the AC vents, one in the left, and one in the right <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> . Hmmm, now what to put in the middle?.....
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But 2 a/f guages would look cool on a firebird in the AC vents, one in the left, and one in the right <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> . Hmmm, now what to put in the middle?.....
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ I think they are too small to fit in the middle...2 5/8's ones fit in the middle all the a/f's are 2 1/16ths....
Well if it doesnt read both it gives an overall of what one side is doing.. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
Well if it doesnt read both it gives an overall of what one side is doing.. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">
Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by RED QUASAR:
<strong>hmmmmmm, that is interesting. I always though it read both too. Guess not.
But 2 a/f guages would look cool on a firebird in the AC vents, one in the left, and one in the right <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> . Hmmm, now what to put in the middle?.....
<img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Have not seen them in the AC Vents, but I did see a car with a dual gauge pod, with both filled with A/F ratio gauges...
<strong>hmmmmmm, that is interesting. I always though it read both too. Guess not.
But 2 a/f guages would look cool on a firebird in the AC vents, one in the left, and one in the right <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> . Hmmm, now what to put in the middle?.....
<img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Have not seen them in the AC Vents, but I did see a car with a dual gauge pod, with both filled with A/F ratio gauges...
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ Here are some pics of an A/F guage mounted in my AC vents.
http://www.geocities.com/timnat2/im000356.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/timnat2/im000358.jpg
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by BIGBOS:
<strong>Those links don't work but I would like to see it...</strong><hr></blockquote>
You need to copy/paste them in a new window. Give thanks to Geoshities for that.
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<strong>Those links don't work but I would like to see it...</strong><hr></blockquote>
You need to copy/paste them in a new window. Give thanks to Geoshities for that.
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by 99taws6:
<strong>You have 8 O2 wires to be exact. The ones that you use are the High Bank Sensor 1's.... You will either need 2 gauges or a toggle switch to get a reading from each one.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
So if you wanted to run both guages, do you just hook the other one up to High Bank Sensor 2? I don't know what the wiring looks like for an a/f on an ls1.
And would the a/f guages alone be good enough to enable you to tune your car, say with a maf translator? If you dont have atap that is.
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<strong>You have 8 O2 wires to be exact. The ones that you use are the High Bank Sensor 1's.... You will either need 2 gauges or a toggle switch to get a reading from each one.....</strong><hr></blockquote>
So if you wanted to run both guages, do you just hook the other one up to High Bank Sensor 2? I don't know what the wiring looks like for an a/f on an ls1.
And would the a/f guages alone be good enough to enable you to tune your car, say with a maf translator? If you dont have atap that is.
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~~~A/F gauge question~~~ I just hooked up my Autometer A/F ratio gauge. I know they are not that accurate, but when the car is idling, the gauge fluctuates from lean to rich to stoich(sp) Is this normal? I have a toggle wired in, so I can switch from side to side and they both do it. I hooked it up at the PCM to the High Bank Sensor 1 on each side....
I just want to know if it is normal to fluctuate like that. The car runs fine and I do not have access to Auto Tap.....George
I just want to know if it is normal to fluctuate like that. The car runs fine and I do not have access to Auto Tap.....George
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Re: ~~~A/F gauge question~~~ [quote]Originally posted by RED QUASAR:
<strong>So if you wanted to run both guages, do you just hook the other one up to High Bank Sensor 2? I don't know what the wiring looks like for an a/f on an ls1. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Why not just get the inline adapter that Thunder Racing sells. It plugs in right by your O2 sensor. Then you run 1 wire up to your guage from there.
I would not rely on the guages for accuracy. I run ATAP and check the guage at the same time. The guages are consistent, but not real accurate. Get an ATAP reading and look at where the guage reads.
Tim
<strong>So if you wanted to run both guages, do you just hook the other one up to High Bank Sensor 2? I don't know what the wiring looks like for an a/f on an ls1. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Why not just get the inline adapter that Thunder Racing sells. It plugs in right by your O2 sensor. Then you run 1 wire up to your guage from there.
I would not rely on the guages for accuracy. I run ATAP and check the guage at the same time. The guages are consistent, but not real accurate. Get an ATAP reading and look at where the guage reads.
Tim
