LS1 burning oil
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LS1 burning oil How many of you people actually "BURN" oil. I'm talking about your car actually smoking either while your in it or only when u let off.
My 00 LS1 burns oil pretty bad. It only does it when i let off though. I've tried a bunch of things to try and cure this. I've tried different PCV setups, i've even bypassed the PCV and it still does it.
This just started happening @ 14K miles. I was running dino oil for the first 8K and then switched to 10w30 mobil1. I recently switched to 5w30 mobil1 and installed headers and that's when i first noticed my car smoking.
I just switched over (2 days ago)to 10w30 castrol syntech to see if it helps any.
Do you guys think that this is hurting the performance of my car? I don't know what to do. I've read all about the new rings and PCV mods and all of that. I don't think anything actually cures this problem though. Some guys have replaced the pistons and rings with aftermarket ones and still have the same problem. Others ave gotten the 02 rings and they didn't help.
I know this has been brought up alot, but i see alot of people "USING" oil and not a lot of cars "SMOKING". I just wanted to see if there are others and to see what they've done.
thanks for any replies in advance.
My 00 LS1 burns oil pretty bad. It only does it when i let off though. I've tried a bunch of things to try and cure this. I've tried different PCV setups, i've even bypassed the PCV and it still does it.
This just started happening @ 14K miles. I was running dino oil for the first 8K and then switched to 10w30 mobil1. I recently switched to 5w30 mobil1 and installed headers and that's when i first noticed my car smoking.
I just switched over (2 days ago)to 10w30 castrol syntech to see if it helps any.
Do you guys think that this is hurting the performance of my car? I don't know what to do. I've read all about the new rings and PCV mods and all of that. I don't think anything actually cures this problem though. Some guys have replaced the pistons and rings with aftermarket ones and still have the same problem. Others ave gotten the 02 rings and they didn't help.
I know this has been brought up alot, but i see alot of people "USING" oil and not a lot of cars "SMOKING". I just wanted to see if there are others and to see what they've done.
thanks for any replies in advance.
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Re: LS1 burning oil first it is covered under warranty.
second it is caused by ring fluter under certain driving conditions. see January GM high tech per magazine for details it is under the article covering the diffrences between '01 and '02 ZO6s
second it is caused by ring fluter under certain driving conditions. see January GM high tech per magazine for details it is under the article covering the diffrences between '01 and '02 ZO6s
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Re: LS1 burning oil [quote]first it is covered under warranty. <hr></blockquote> Yeah but that means i have to pull off my headers which is something i don't want to do.
Second, as i mentioned before some people have replaced their rings and it doesn't solve the problem.
I really don't want to take my car to the dealer and have them tear down my motor for a week and then replace the rings only to find out it still does it.
Second, as i mentioned before some people have replaced their rings and it doesn't solve the problem.
I really don't want to take my car to the dealer and have them tear down my motor for a week and then replace the rings only to find out it still does it.
Re: LS1 burning oil [quote]Originally posted by badass 2000 z28:
<strong> Yeah but that means i have to pull off my headers which is something i don't want to do.
Second, as i mentioned before some people have replaced their rings and it doesn't solve the problem.
I really don't want to take my car to the dealer and have them tear down my motor for a week and then replace the rings only to find out it still does it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well first off, if it's free and under warranty, what would be the problem?? It's their dime, not yours.
Second, if going to the dealer is needed, than you will have to go for it.... Unless you would like this problem to continue and get worse. If rings don't fix the problem, it's their job to find out why not. That's the beauty of a warranty <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> .
BTW, about 99% of all LS1's burn oil. Some burn different amounts than others, but I have yet to hear of one that didn't burn ANY oil.
Josh
<strong> Yeah but that means i have to pull off my headers which is something i don't want to do.
Second, as i mentioned before some people have replaced their rings and it doesn't solve the problem.
I really don't want to take my car to the dealer and have them tear down my motor for a week and then replace the rings only to find out it still does it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well first off, if it's free and under warranty, what would be the problem?? It's their dime, not yours.
Second, if going to the dealer is needed, than you will have to go for it.... Unless you would like this problem to continue and get worse. If rings don't fix the problem, it's their job to find out why not. That's the beauty of a warranty <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> .
BTW, about 99% of all LS1's burn oil. Some burn different amounts than others, but I have yet to hear of one that didn't burn ANY oil.
Josh
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Re: LS1 burning oil [quote]BTW, about 99% of all LS1's burn oil <hr></blockquote>I know this. So if almost all LS1's burn oil then it can't hurt now can it? you don't see every LS1 that uses oil sitting at a dealer getting their rings replaced, explain that
My actual question is does it hurt performance any? I was questioning this since i've seen alot of people that have this problem and just delt with it.
My actual question is does it hurt performance any? I was questioning this since i've seen alot of people that have this problem and just delt with it.
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Re: LS1 burning oil it doesnt hurt it just gets expensive over time buying all the oil <img src="images/icons/frown.gif" border="0"> i know my car eats 1 qt every 1500 miles.
but as to the rings they redesigned them so as not to flutter.
but as to the rings they redesigned them so as not to flutter.
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Re: LS1 burning oil nope i hydro locked my motor and just got a '02 short block <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
trust me not the recomended way to do it <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">
trust me not the recomended way to do it <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0">
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Re: LS1 burning oil I was actually thinking about letting all the oil burn up and locking up my motor. That's an easy way to get them to give me a new motor <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />
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Re: LS1 burning oil [quote]Originally posted by badass 2000 z28:
<strong>I was actually thinking about letting all the oil burn up and locking up my motor. That's an easy way to get them to give me a new motor <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Except they wouldn't, 'cause they'd void the warranty for running the engine without lubrication... <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
I guess I'm part of the 1%, as I don't lose any significant amount of oil between changes. Sure, my intake tract is slimy as hell, but it's not pulling enough into the intake to register more than about ¼ quart in 3000 miles. Not that I'm complaining... <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
<strong>I was actually thinking about letting all the oil burn up and locking up my motor. That's an easy way to get them to give me a new motor <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Except they wouldn't, 'cause they'd void the warranty for running the engine without lubrication... <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0">
I guess I'm part of the 1%, as I don't lose any significant amount of oil between changes. Sure, my intake tract is slimy as hell, but it's not pulling enough into the intake to register more than about ¼ quart in 3000 miles. Not that I'm complaining... <img src="images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Re: LS1 burning oil I should just take my car in with the headers on and tell them that the POS motor burns oil. If they don't want to fix it cuz of the headers i'll go to another dealer.
I don't enjoy installing and removing MAC headers, once was enough. I don't like the fact that my 2000 smokes either.... <img src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" border="0" alt="[barf]" />
I don't enjoy installing and removing MAC headers, once was enough. I don't like the fact that my 2000 smokes either.... <img src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" border="0" alt="[barf]" />
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Re: LS1 burning oil I have the same problem..First dealer I went to said that it is normal to burn 1qt/2200 miles.
The Service Manager said that they wont fix unless you are burning 1 qt/600-900 miles.
I am going to try another dealership.
The Service Manager said that they wont fix unless you are burning 1 qt/600-900 miles.
I am going to try another dealership.
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Re: LS1 burning oil I've been beating on mine pretty good since the converter install several weeks ago. When I read this post I went and checked the oil. None consumed I that I can tell. <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
Mine seems to mainly use oil on long cruises, which seems kinda weird considering the gears I have.
[ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: gwj ]</p>
Mine seems to mainly use oil on long cruises, which seems kinda weird considering the gears I have.
[ December 05, 2001: Message edited by: gwj ]</p>
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Re: LS1 burning oil Hello all, I have a 2000 T/A that was burning oil. After going about 400 miles I was 2 quarts low. I was told is was bad rings and got it fix under warrenty. I had 23000 miles on my car. And they said I lost about 10-15 rwhp because of it. They also said because i used syntethic oil to soon may have caused the problem but it got fixed.
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Re: LS1 burning oil [quote]Originally posted by badass 2000 z28:
<strong>BTW: All you people that don't use any oil make me sick!! If everyone burned oil maybe GM would issue a recall</strong><hr></blockquote>
LMAO <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
Sorry, I'll try and beat on it a little harder and see what I can do.
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<strong>BTW: All you people that don't use any oil make me sick!! If everyone burned oil maybe GM would issue a recall</strong><hr></blockquote>
LMAO <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
Sorry, I'll try and beat on it a little harder and see what I can do.
Chris
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Re: LS1 burning oil i encorage everyone that doesn't use a drop of oil to run the **** out of their cars. Turbo charge it, supercharge it, spray the hell out of it!! <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
