First of all, my current longblock is FOR SALE:

MTI 382ci all-bore resleeved aluminum block 4.10" bore size
MTI Stage 3 LS1 heads ('99-01 style) with 4.10" chambers
Ferrea 2.08" Intake valves, 1.60" Exhaust valves
Lunati custom forged pistons, reverse domed w/valve reliefs
MTI "T2" camshaft (232/232 .574/.574 112)
MTI custom dual-valvespring setup with titanium retainers
MTI custom chromoly pushrods
MTI modified oil pump
ARP rod bolts
Stock LS1 rods (rebalanced)
Stock LS1 crank (rebalanced)
Stock LS1 rocker arms
Compression ratio is 11.0:1 and runs on pump gas
2250 miles on complete motor, completely rebuilt in September '01 for Bowling Green event.

$6000 Firm with core exchange.

MTI will perform the motor swap for $1500 and still honor the warranty for 6 more months if they install it. We can also work something out if you want to pay with Visa, Mastercard, or Discover.

Now, onto future plans....

I guess I'm going to hold off on selling the car and buying a Vette, I think I'd miss drag racing too much. So, Jayson and I talked today about doing some motor upgrades in order to build a badass nitrous motor. I plan on a direct-port kit in the future.

What I'm most likely going to do is go with Stage 3 LS6 heads, flat top pistons for more compression ratio, and upgraded rods. Should be plenty strong for a dose of nitrous! Since this car is no longer my daily-driver, the next motor will be a bit more aggressive. I'm still considering the solid roller cam setup, as well as throwing in some extra dough for the forged crank and have a badass 422ci setup. Decisions, decisions....

So, whoever wants this current motor at a great price is going to be very pleased! Just for reference sake, an MTI all-bore 382ci shortblock retails for $4500, the stage 3 heads cost $3250, the camshaft $450, the modified pump $100, the pushrods $110, the ARP rod bolts $110, head bolts and custom 4.10" head gaskets $200, Total = $8720 without installation.

Email me if you are a serious buyer or need any more information!

Tony

[ January 07, 2002: Message edited by: Nine Ball ]</p>

 

Can't believe you're selling one of the greatest LS1 motors in the country so cheap! If anybody could see how fast your heavy *** boat flies with this motor, they would be truly amazed!

I like the fact you are going back to your nitrous roots. Nines in a luxo-cruiser sounds delicious! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

 

Why dont they turn your current 382 into a 422?

Good to hear a 382 all bore shortblock is only $4500...might be on my todo list this spring....but I was only going to do it if was easy to change to a 422 later on (ie, if its already bored out, any machine shop could put the stroker kit in right?)

 

I hear ya Patrick, I'm just giving someone a hell of a deal so I can cover some of the upgraded motor costs.

"Nine" Ball might have a different meaning soon <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Tony <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

 

Jon, since this motor is already a well-built proven setup, it would be easier to sell complete and just start with a new project motor. Upgrading to a 422ci motor would require custom rods and the forged crank, but everything would also have to be rebalanced. Plus, I really want those nice LS6 heads if I'm going to do any sort of upgrade.

~plink!~

-that was my first penny in the jar towards a crankshaft <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Tony

 

What did this motor dyno again?

Sounds like a good deal!

 

It's highest dyno number was 455 rwhp pushing a 12-bolt rearend with 4.10 gears. Common dyno numbers are typically 440-450 rwhp on most days though. This is still with no custom tuning either.

Tony

 

Tony, you are moving more and more to the dark side of cubic inches! Small engines suck! You need at least a 422. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" />

 

Jeepers Tony,

Solid roller, high-compression 422 with,uhhh, probably a 200+ shot to go on top of that? Gonna make the 422 I'm getting look pretty tame!

Seriously, I would love for you to do it. Could you get an M6 car into the 9's?? <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">

 

Tony... why not go for 10s first? (I had to ask since everyone asked me the same thing) <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> LOL

Regardless, good luck selling it. That really is a good deal. I can't wait to see how the next motor turns out!

 

So, is this going to be an another all-bore or a 346ci?

 

Tony

Why not go with a 436 or a 449? I hear MTI is puttting out good power with these configs. Maybe these motors are too big for nitrous. What exact rwhp is MTI getting on these setups w/o the solid roller?

[ January 05, 2002: Message edited by: Sir Sel ]</p>

 

So I assume your going to be around 500rwhp with the "new" setup <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

 

Small engines suck? Don't think so. I have a small 346 and I can tell you with my new year upgrades I will set some record 346ci n/a times Gauranteed!!! The motor is on its way now!!! 10.81's was nothing for the last year's 346 set up and for this year, well let's just say that Craig, Steve and I have some future plans to make this set up turn even higher number then the last. IMO having a big motor to put out great numbers is not much of a challenge. Having a small ci engine putting out the same numbers is!
I believe it can be done as long as you strive for perfection. I will be out with the brand new set up soon and is in the works. So the small engine set ups suck? Will see, its all about who's setting it up and who's doing the work....

Good luck Tony with your new future plans and I'm sure you will pick an awsome set up!!!!!


[quote]Originally posted by racer7088:
<strong>Tony, you are moving more and more to the dark side of cubic inches! Small engines suck! You need at least a 422. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[Burnout]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

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I cant believe it.. You are going to something new.. Hey, Tony will that T2 cam work in a 346? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

 

Good luck selling the motor. I suggest that you post your offer at the corvetteforum too. Iam sure some guys will be interested.

BTW, do you have an idea about the price of the MTI 422 block ?

Thanks

 

I really really think the best thing to do is stick that 3k$ 4" crank in there.

For the money you would spend upgrading from ls1 to ls6 heads, you could gain about 40 hp.

I *guarantee* that LS6 heads dont get you 40hp over LS1 heads... Besides...my stage X LS6 heads have been a pain in the ***. LS6 heads that are hogged out have a tendancy for the spring seats to break through into the topside of the intake port. ARE's do it, MTI's do it... for the PITA factor, I wonder if LS1 heads just are a better idea. Your car, but a 422 plus a 200 shot is, I would think, more than the rest of the car can handle ;-)

Chris

 

so what's the scoop - is 422 CI now considered the practical upper displacement limit? I suppose those hypothetical tall deck blocks will never be released so we won't be seeing any 454 inch aluminum block LS1 derivatives anytime soon <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0">
probably wouldn't fit in the engine bay anyway <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />

anyone else have any classified info? <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

 

WeatherGuy, I wouldn't need 422ci to get into the 9s, just more nitrous <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

I could probably get into the 9s with this current motor with a properly setup nitrous system.

Jason, I'll continue to reach for 10s unless this motor sells right away. I'm aiming at another all-bore 382ci motor for the time being, but with different pistons, LS6 heads, and a more nitrous suitable cam like the R1 (232/237 on a 114). No way I'd go back to 346ci unless it was in a Vette <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Sir Sel, MTI 422ci motors are typically making about 500 rwhp in a fully streetable setup and a hydraulic cam. I personally don't see the need to go bigger, that displacement is a very good balance between bore and stroke. Likes to rev pretty quickly!

Vince, I wouldn't recommend the T2 in 346ci. Waaay too big in my opinion. It idles in this 382ci much like a T1 does in 346ci. Still plenty drivable, but not exactly a sleeper.

xxxhp, good idea on the Corvetteforum.com ad, I'll definitely do this.

Visceral, MTI finished another all-bore 382ci motor two weeks ago for an A4 car. It had LS6 heads and the R1 cam and pulled 455 rwhp through the converter and 465 rwhp locked up. Plus it has stronger rods in it. My setup might be a little more aggressive. The LS6 heads really do make a big difference on larger cube motors, especially at higher rpm! Plus, its not about upgrading this current motor, its also about MTI wanting to try something new in my car....again <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Dave, our big motors are already pretty restricted by the intake, all those extra cubes might help torque output at mid/lower rpm, but at higher rpm the intakes start to limit the potential. A short-runner sheetmetal intake and a big solid roller cam would fix those problems though, but I can't afford that stuff yet haha.

382ci, higher compression, nitrous cam, LS6 heads, and a 200 shot. Think it will run well? <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

Tony

 

ahhh. I take it you got something out of our last conversation? <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Good luck with the new combo...and think 2-stage. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">