JS

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I like the idea a square motor and wouldnt have to sleeve this way...

JS

Nine Ball

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Cheap? I wouldn't recommend offset grinding a stock crank that much. And if you were to buy a forged crank, why get only 3.90? At least get an off-the-shelf 4" crank.

Then just add a sleeved/bored block later <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

Tony

JS

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Well I'm weighing my option Tony and not sleeving saves ALOT of $$$.

Was Judson's motor a ALL bore 375CI or a stroke setup?

JS

Crazyquik

If you really want a square motor, an iron block (4 inches + overbore) and an off the shelf Lunati forged crank would get pretty close. 402+ ci depending on overbore.

J.

JS

iTrader: (4)

Lunati will grind a 3.90 stroke
Their pro mod rod is very strong
Pistons will be easy too in a 11.7CR ratio

Did Judson run the kind of setup
w/his 375CI?

JS

RyanJ

Judsons 375 was a resleeved ls1 block.

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Pro Stock John

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3.900 crank is a waste since it will cost as much as a 4.000-4.100 stroke crank.

Scat had a few 3.900's lying around, they made them for Mallet. Looking at $2000 + $300 to put a reluctor wheel on there.

Traditional Lunati stroker kit is 3.900 bore x 4.000 stroke.

John
4.060 iron x 4.075 offset ground lunati = 422ci

'98 Six Speed

[quote]Originally posted by JS:
<strong>I like the idea a square motor and wouldnt have to sleeve this way...

JS</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why do you like a square motor?

Also, this 3.9 x 3.9 combo would not have a great rod/stroke ratio and the valves would be shrouded.

Terry Burger

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JS either open the bore up or do nothing. Adding more stroke alone is not going to make you any quicker. Why are you worried about $$ anyway? Is Cartech not giving you the great hookup you were expecting?

JS

iTrader: (4)

I'm not spending the $$$ for a sleeve job.
And u guys r correct.I'll build the biggest stroker I can w/off the shelf parts from Lunati 382 Stroker....

Should make 450RHP w/S2 LS6 Heads

Thanx
JS

CHRISPY

Joel I would go with all bore and forget the stroker crank. Waste of $$ in my opinion. Use the stock crank offset ground to give 3.72 stroke and then resleeve and bore to 4.10 fo 393 ci. Would unshroud the valves really well, be a lot cheaper and run faster. If you wanted to keep your stock rod and crank just open to a 4.1 bore with a resleeve for 382ci. Would still make more power and be cheaper.
Chris

JS

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Yea Chris I just priced the All Bore..
It is cheaper than a 382 stroker
I stand corrected.


382 All Bore comming soon..
I'm gonna use good rods/pistons w/a stock crank

JS

gwj

I like the way Tony thinks about "square/oversquare". But I understand where JS is coming from.
JS, as succesful as you've been with stock displacement, I was hoping you'd keep that trend.
But,no matter how you look at it, C.I. is C.I.
For us "oldtimers" it's hard to forget how strong the 327 was against the overbore 283 & 400s.

Nine Ball

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You mean you always thought the all-bore was more expensive than the all-stroke 382ci?

LOL!

After all my threads in the past comparing pricing? Its about $2K cheaper..... and more power <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Tony

gwj

I just caught what PSJ said. That much to install a reluctor? JHC

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

[quote]For us "oldtimers" it's hard to forget how strong the 327 was against the overbore 283 & 400s.<hr></blockquote>

Hey, I'm not an oldtimer and I know that fact. I had a very fast revving 327 out of a 65 Vette that was in my '69 Camaro. It ran mid-13s without ported heads, Holley street dominator intake, a large cam, longtubes, TH350/converter and a 650 carb. When I had the shortblock rebalanced with forged pistons, the machine shop offered to buy the motor on the spot and build me up a regular 350 instead. Nope! I used to shift that motor at 7K+ <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">

Oh yeah, it only got 9 mpg. Ouch.

Tony

Pro Stock John

iTrader: (34)

$200-300 to install it at ARE.

Lunati stroker cranks already have the reluctor wheel on there.

Judson's motor was a bore motor with stock stroke.

gwj

Okay Tony, how ARE the blocks re-sleeved? I must have missed something. I would have thought a stroker would have been cheaper?
Reiterate some details for this old man. Besides, it could serve as a "primer" for some of us.
Thanks.

gwj

Tony,I hear what you're saying. My first non-stock buildup was a '64 vette 327 (with the cannistor filter, LOL).

JS

iTrader: (4)

Truthfully Tony I never really priced it out.
But your have helped me make a decision...

Oh it wont go in the car until Summer time anyway.
I'm gonna run my 346CI first.

Gotta see how much I pick up w/Carteks LS6 S2 H/C I'm hoping for 11.15@121.Will see?

JS