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Old 12-08-2006, 07:52 AM
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BEFORE: ( 228/222 .588/.581 114.5 LSA)


AFTER: (231/237 .589/.595 112 LSA)


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Car made 380rwhp/379rwtq (w/ before cam)
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The new cam will have more of a lope to it and you might gain 10 horsepower.
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Get rid of that cam. It's junk.
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Originally Posted by VenomInside
BEFORE: ( 228/222 .588/.581 114.5 LSA)


AFTER: (231/237 .589/.595 112 LSA)


Mods:
Mac Filter
Hooker Cat-back
Hooker O/R Y
Hooker comp LT's (EGR Delete)
Comp Cam (.588/.581 , .228/.222 114.5LSA)
Vig 3600 Stall
Ls6 Intake
Lid
Eibach Springs
Bilstein Struts/shocks

Car made 380rwhp/379rwtq (w/ before cam)
If your going to make the swap, you would be better of stepping up to something like the MS3 or MS4.
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Yea, just jump up a hair more to an ms3 or a 233/239 if you dont want to go quite as big as the ms3. Im biased tho since thats what im going to once i get some cash.
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Who makes the Ms3 cam. I am looking to bump my power up to over 400rwhp (if possible).

I am still looking for some streetability.
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TSP makes MS3, MS4 cam.
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Why did you have reverse split on teh old one? Id look for something ground on the XER lobes instead of the softer XE. For that reason alone id go with the 233/239 instead of teh 231/237
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
Why did you have reverse split on teh old one? Id look for something ground on the XER lobes instead of the softer XE. For that reason alone id go with the 233/239 instead of teh 231/237
Who would be the best place to get a cam like that. Also, what would (In your view) drivability be like?
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Originally Posted by VenomInside
Who would be the best place to get a cam like that. Also, what would (In your view) drivability be like?
TSP sells that both those cams. Theyre comp grinds. They also have the newer style cams with LSK lobes, but im still a little leary of the super high lifts vs. spring life. With a good cam drivability should be okay. Youll have to stay on top of the car with any cam that size, but shouldnt be all that bad. I suggest you go take a look at some local cammed cars to get a feel for how big a cam you can really live with. Its not gonna drive like stock.
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Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
TSP sells that both those cams. Theyre comp grinds. They also have the newer style cams with LSK lobes, but im still a little leary of the super high lifts vs. spring life. With a good cam drivability should be okay. Youll have to stay on top of the car with any cam that size, but shouldnt be all that bad. I suggest you go take a look at some local cammed cars to get a feel for how big a cam you can really live with. Its not gonna drive like stock.
Well you see above on what kind of cam i have in my car now. I guess it would be considered a "baby" cam.

So yea, not sure which to go with. So confused. lol.

The car will be driven somewhat often (but not all the time) and It will be in orlando (heat).
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[QUOTE]Quote:
Originally Posted by GuitsBoy
TSP sells that both those cams. Theyre comp grinds. They also have the newer style cams with LSK lobes, but im still a little leary of the super high lifts vs. spring life. With a good cam drivability should be okay. Youll have to stay on top of the car with any cam that size, but shouldnt be all that bad.[B] I suggest you go take a look at some local cammed cars to get a feel for how big a cam you can really live with. Its not gonna drive like stock.[QUOTE]

Can you explain how this will affect driveability?
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With a good tuner, the drivability of any of those cams will be fine. the engine will just have a little more lope to it. And you might have your idle bumped up a hair. Its all about your tolerance level
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Originally Posted by straitwangin
Can you explain how this will affect driveability?
A good tune can aleviate most of the surging and stalling, but a little bit will remain. Low end torque wont be as abundant as it once was. If you got used to letting the clutch out a certain way just above idle, youre now gonna have to bring it up a little higher or else youll stall. The idle will of course have some chop / lope to it, as thats what were all looking for, but with that, you may also have some idle stability issues. Fluctuating rpm, improper fueling, etc. Then of course theres the possibility of cam bucking. Keeping the rpms steady around 1600 as you slowly drive across a parking lot coupld start to buck wildly. All you can do is clutch in, and drive around that rpm area.
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I know this is unsolicited advice, but I'd try and pick up a budget set of heads. The drivability that you're going to give away for 10hp wouldn't be worth it to me. I say heads that flow better and have smaller chambers.

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Originally Posted by Studytime
I know this is unsolicited advice, but I'd try and pick up a budget set of heads. The drivability that you're going to give away for 10hp wouldn't be worth it to me. I say heads that flow better and have smaller chambers.

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I agree. Heads do great things for increasing drivability expecially when milled to a good DCR (8.6-8.7).
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I gotta agree on heads. With my new setup (milled to 8.6x DCR), my drivability is about the same as it was with my old 224 cam. Well, until about 3200 RPM. Then hang on!
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I have the tsp 233/239 right now and i'm still getting used to it but already feel like I should've gone torquer v3 or ms4. Driveability is not as bad as I thought, really the only difference in driveability is you have to rev slightly more to get moving so that it won't sound like it's dieing but honestly I thought that was gonna suck but I don't even notice it.. Other then that the only other driveability issue I have is I have a heavy foot and those tires like to spin . Cam surge is kinda annoying but I only have it when I get off the throttle completely, most of it will be gone after the tune. Go bigger, you won't regret it. Also might I add that I went with this cam on my daily driver, i'm 19, I drive this car for work and school everyday(my only car). I drive on average 250-300 miles a week.




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