228r, 233/239, MS3, MS4...from 20mph roll
12-11-2006, 09:39 AM
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yeah u got some guys say its a perfect streetable car. but some of those guys still say they have idling issues, and a little bit of surging. and some of those guys say thats with a tune. and i dont want to wait 10 minutes for my car to find its idle.
12-11-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by 01formula6
Dr. Jeckel, I'm pretty much in the same boat as you as far as cam choice goes. I've had 226/226 112 cam before and would definitely want to go bigger next time. I'll most likely be going with the Torquer 2. It's just a matter of what you use the car for and what you consider streetable with the car being a DD. I noticed you're the same age as me, not that we are old by any means, but you have to remember that some of these guys telling you to go MS4 are probably 18-19 yrs. old. Nothing wrong with that, nor is it a bad cam, but I know my definition of "streetable" has definitely changed since then. Good luck and I'm sure you'll enjoy whatever cam you choose.
Well, I have decided on the 228r, for these reasons;
-I plan on matching them to PRC 5.3l stage 2.5 heads later, which will up compression and give me a good DCR.
-I don't want to rev past 6400rpm and like others have said, the other cams need 67-6800rpm
-I don't want to worry about spring longevity(although some say its not a factor)
-The car is for me to have fun with, wether it be racing or wot blasts every now and then.
-Comments such as "Go big or go home" are exactly opposite of my thinking, so thank you for helping me make up my mind.
Thanks everyone for the comments and advice. I will post up some numbers once the cam is in.
12-11-2006, 10:31 AM
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I drive a Torquer V2/PRC Stage 1s combo daily> I don't have any surging problems. As a matter of fact Thursday and Friday of last week the tempature outside was 18 degrees. The car fired rite up, defrosts its windows after 5 mins and then I haul *** to work. Sunday it went to the dragstrip T&T at ran a 12.01 at 114mph and the only thing you have to adjust on the car is the tire pressure.I highly recomend this camshaft. It has plenty of torque down low where you need it. Bu hell I'm 51 years old some of you younger dudes might not be able to handle it. 
12-11-2006, 10:56 AM
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Glad I could help. I'm actually planning on going with those same PRC heads myself. I think those heads paired with the 228R or Torquer cam will make a great street combo and won't exactly be a slouch at the strip. Oh, and make sure you have a video camera on hand for that first start up...we like videos 
12-11-2006, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Jeckel
EXACTLY!!!!! I couldn't agree more. I am no longer at the age that I feel I have to prove anything. I have been there and done that. If your car is faster than mine then its just faster. I'm not one of those people who gets butt-hurt and drives off if I lose, I want to check out your setup and see what you have done. My definition of streetable is probably the same as a 60 year old
Well, I have decided on the 228r, for these reasons;
-I plan on matching them to PRC 5.3l stage 2.5 heads later, which will up compression and give me a good DCR.
-I don't want to rev past 6400rpm and like others have said, the other cams need 67-6800rpm
-I don't want to worry about spring longevity(although some say its not a factor)
-The car is for me to have fun with, wether it be racing or wot blasts every now and then.
-Comments such as "Go big or go home" are exactly opposite of my thinking, so thank you for helping me make up my mind.
Thanks everyone for the comments and advice. I will post up some numbers once the cam is in.
Well, I have decided on the 228r, for these reasons;
-I plan on matching them to PRC 5.3l stage 2.5 heads later, which will up compression and give me a good DCR.
-I don't want to rev past 6400rpm and like others have said, the other cams need 67-6800rpm
-I don't want to worry about spring longevity(although some say its not a factor)
-The car is for me to have fun with, wether it be racing or wot blasts every now and then.
-Comments such as "Go big or go home" are exactly opposite of my thinking, so thank you for helping me make up my mind.
Thanks everyone for the comments and advice. I will post up some numbers once the cam is in.
That one would be more beneficial with the heads you're planning to get.
it has the same power range as the 228R but will help with exhaust scavenging a bit more, + 6* overlap for added power.
12-11-2006, 12:25 PM
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Just giving you more of a reason to pick the cam you chose. My 233/239 .595/.603 112 doesn't cold start well. once warm it is great. there is no surging or bucking but i do have to spin it to about 6600. it peaks between 6400 and 6600 with prc stg 1 heads.
12-11-2006, 02:55 PM
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Hey Mr. Jeckel ur car doesnt happen to be the SOM SS that was at Beaton's not to long ago is it? My friend almost traded in his 99 SS for that one...very nice car.
I bought my patriot 226 from 01formula6 and now im thinking that i also want bigger..then again im still untuned so dont know exactly how strong this cam is, but it does have a nice lope to it.
I bought my patriot 226 from 01formula6 and now im thinking that i also want bigger..then again im still untuned so dont know exactly how strong this cam is, but it does have a nice lope to it.
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12-11-2006, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
yeah u got some guys say its a perfect streetable car. but some of those guys still say they have idling issues, and a little bit of surging. and some of those guys say thats with a tune. and i dont want to wait 10 minutes for my car to find its idle.
12-14-2006, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fly pantera
torquer 2 here in san marcos tx,d.d and drives fine,got pulled by a ms3 vette,about 2 car lengths.not that its a bad cam but if i had to do it over again I would go bigger.(g5x3,ms3)
12-14-2006, 04:50 PM
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You could just get a cam in the middle like a Futral F13 or F14. They make the around the same power as the MS cams and are proven performers on the street and track.
02-27-2007, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fly pantera
torquer 2 here in san marcos tx,d.d and drives fine,got pulled by a ms3 vette,about 2 car lengths.not that its a bad cam but if i had to do it over again I would go bigger.(g5x3,ms3)
02-28-2007, 09:34 AM
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Only advise I can give is after you go thru all the work(and money) of a cam install, the LAST thing you want to do is be dissapointed with the newfound power. If you are gonna do it, do it a step bigger than you THINK you will be comfortable with. I did the MS3 and have absolutely no regrets. I feel like it was the perfect starter cam. And I know it was worth it when I drop the car into 2nd at 55mph. I have never gotten a head rush like that!
