WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME???
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WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? I posted this in the programming section and didn't get and response to it...so I figure I would post it here too.... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
Well my car when it was a 6-speed made 360rwhp and 350rwtq with a cam on stock heads with a lid and headers....I know if I did some free mods I could of gotten the HP....but supposdly the custom programming gives you more and makes the car run a lot better....it will be tuned with LS1 Edit if I get it...
I am converting over to the TH400 with a 4500 stall, the stall is non locking and I want the car to make the most HP possible....I know I could live with out programming, but the car surges now pretty bad when its semi warm...I can only imagine how bad it would be with a 4500 stall trying to back up in reverse and not being able to rev the car to keep it alive...
If I decide to get programming it will be $500 bucks and it will be combined with dyno tuning...I would most likely set the limiter at 6800 and shift at 6400 for WOT apps....I got the MAFT so I could switch the AFR as I do more mods....
So people do you think its worth it for what I am doing??
I want to put down somewhere around 370rwhp and 390rwtq and thats through the TH400 with the non locking stall, through a 9" with a 3.73 too...
What do you think?
Thanks
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Well my car when it was a 6-speed made 360rwhp and 350rwtq with a cam on stock heads with a lid and headers....I know if I did some free mods I could of gotten the HP....but supposdly the custom programming gives you more and makes the car run a lot better....it will be tuned with LS1 Edit if I get it...
I am converting over to the TH400 with a 4500 stall, the stall is non locking and I want the car to make the most HP possible....I know I could live with out programming, but the car surges now pretty bad when its semi warm...I can only imagine how bad it would be with a 4500 stall trying to back up in reverse and not being able to rev the car to keep it alive...
If I decide to get programming it will be $500 bucks and it will be combined with dyno tuning...I would most likely set the limiter at 6800 and shift at 6400 for WOT apps....I got the MAFT so I could switch the AFR as I do more mods....
So people do you think its worth it for what I am doing??
I want to put down somewhere around 370rwhp and 390rwtq and thats through the TH400 with the non locking stall, through a 9" with a 3.73 too...
What do you think?
Thanks
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? yeah i think you could pick up some with tuning on the dyno, who wouldnt. now, i think i could set you up with another cam that would surely make the HP you want but you'd have to be ready to spin the motor up pretty good.
Ryan
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? See right now I only want to shift at like 6400-6500, the motor will last a long time with that...I won't be shifting that high everytime I drive it....but if I went with an aggressive cam like a 224/228 .569/.569 112lsa I could make some serious power...or that new LG motorsports cam thats making sick HP, but they won't give the specs on it yet... <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />
If I wanted to spin the motor to 7000 with out worrying I would want to do stronger rods....I don't need any holes being punched in the block.... <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
I want to run around 11.5's with the car with stock heads..... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
If I wanted to spin the motor to 7000 with out worrying I would want to do stronger rods....I don't need any holes being punched in the block.... <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">
I want to run around 11.5's with the car with stock heads..... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? Expect to loose quite a bit of
power to the rear wheels installing that
Th400 specially compared to a six speed
I would say close to 50hp
I have a TH400 and a 3500 stall .
getting ready to do a LS1 swap into my
1970 camaro ,i'll trade ya my 400 for your
6 spd.
power to the rear wheels installing that
Th400 specially compared to a six speed
I would say close to 50hp
I have a TH400 and a 3500 stall .
getting ready to do a LS1 swap into my
1970 camaro ,i'll trade ya my 400 for your
6 spd.
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? Thats alright I already got everything set....the TH400 doesn't take 50 hp away...the most I've heard is around 20 and thats the MOST...
AZZKICKER with a nitrous cam, thats not as good for n/a went 11.6's.... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> And he wasn't making that much HP to begin with unless he sprayed it...
AZZKICKER with a nitrous cam, thats not as good for n/a went 11.6's.... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> And he wasn't making that much HP to begin with unless he sprayed it...
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? just so you know...a TH400 saps AT LEAST 20hp. thats not really taking into account a non-locking verter to a 3.42'd M6. i think he's right. expect 325-330 i think. monster torque though.
Ryan (i was talking about the LG cam BTW)
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? I plan on dynoing just to see what the difference is....then I plan on doing a lot of smaller mods...
I am going to gut the MAFT.....
Get some underdrive pullies.....
What else can I do to get those extra ponies?
I am going to gut the MAFT.....
Get some underdrive pullies.....
What else can I do to get those extra ponies?
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? i for one would love to see a back to back (so to speak) dyno test. then another with the rear, or vice versa. i figured you already had all the ported maf/ported tb/pulley jazz done.
what atap O2's are you seeing with the stock MAF?
Ryan
what atap O2's are you seeing with the stock MAF?
Ryan
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? not sure, I haven't tested yet....it was running 14:1 AFRS down low before and 12:1 up high, so I set the MAFT to 10%rich base and like 5% lean up top....its been running good like that but I haven't redynoed....
I would like to do as much cheap free stuff as possible to get some of that HP back... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
I would like to do as much cheap free stuff as possible to get some of that HP back... <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? 11.5s with stock heads <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? bos has the idea that his car will run that year round and with full weight....thats why i said
"11.5s <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> "and i still stick with that.... <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
"11.5s <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" /> "and i still stick with that.... <img src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" border="0" alt="[jester]" />
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? DAMN BOS YOUR GONNA FLY.....YOU MUST BE THE ONLY FULL WEIGHT ,STOCK HEADED LS1 IN THE COUNTRY TO GO THAT FAST....AND MAKE IT LIVE ON A 10 BOLT...
SINCE YOUR FLYIN NOW WHAT U GONNA GIVE ME ????
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Re: WILL PROGRAMMING HELP ME??? I think its possible in a lightweight car with optimal racing weather. It would be hard to run that time all year round here. And yes, programming will always help, if done right.
Good Luck!
Sean
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Good Luck!
Sean
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