JS's A4 dynoed 432 RWHP and 388 RWTQ part 2
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Pete I wanna thank u for that.
It means alot to me.Thanx for the kind words.
All I really wanna do is get along with everyone
I've been real upset since the Funeral.I miss my Mom dearly and everyday I gotta wake up to this BS...
Thanx again Pete
JS
It means alot to me.Thanx for the kind words.
All I really wanna do is get along with everyone
I've been real upset since the Funeral.I miss my Mom dearly and everyday I gotta wake up to this BS...
Thanx again Pete
JS
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Don't make me lock this one too. It's getting pretty close. Damn, I'm starting to get sick of this ****! <img src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by Terry Burger:
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...rpm is rpm. It's taken off the ignition system directly and the fact that your tranny may or may not be slipping will have no impact on its reading. If the engine is turning 6500rpm the dyno will indicate 6500rpm regardless of the MPH of the roller. What you're trying to describe would require a power vs MPH plot. You'd have to show that while the MPH indicated at the roller was Ymph, doing the calculations on the gearing and rpm it should have been (Y-Z) mph. This would show the amount of tranny slip.
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Sorry Terry, but many dynos compute an RPM per MPH using a sampling process and do not directly compute it from the ignition lead. I don't know what Cartek uses, (I need to see the full printout to know if that it is case) but it is a very common problem when dynoing A4s with high stall converters to see the rpm curve shifted. Usually locking a converter eliminates that issue. A slipping tranny (or clutch in an M6) could distort the dyno reported rpms.
Since there is only one person in the business that you believe, call Mike Morgan and ask him. We went through this issue on Tom the Roofer's old set-up when his dyno showed him turning 7500 on a car with a 7000 rev limiter.
JS & Julio: I look forward to seeing the Dynatech/Mac comparison
[ February 02, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</p>
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...rpm is rpm. It's taken off the ignition system directly and the fact that your tranny may or may not be slipping will have no impact on its reading. If the engine is turning 6500rpm the dyno will indicate 6500rpm regardless of the MPH of the roller. What you're trying to describe would require a power vs MPH plot. You'd have to show that while the MPH indicated at the roller was Ymph, doing the calculations on the gearing and rpm it should have been (Y-Z) mph. This would show the amount of tranny slip.
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Sorry Terry, but many dynos compute an RPM per MPH using a sampling process and do not directly compute it from the ignition lead. I don't know what Cartek uses, (I need to see the full printout to know if that it is case) but it is a very common problem when dynoing A4s with high stall converters to see the rpm curve shifted. Usually locking a converter eliminates that issue. A slipping tranny (or clutch in an M6) could distort the dyno reported rpms.
Since there is only one person in the business that you believe, call Mike Morgan and ask him. We went through this issue on Tom the Roofer's old set-up when his dyno showed him turning 7500 on a car with a 7000 rev limiter.
JS & Julio: I look forward to seeing the Dynatech/Mac comparison
[ February 02, 2002: Message edited by: Ragtop 99 ]</p>
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Well I would like to take a monent to say I am sorry for the cursing <img src="gr_sad.gif" border="0"> that was wrong on my part . But I am not sorry for what I said to Terry <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Everyone works hard on their cars and the sponsors go above and beyond to help us reach our goals.. Then to have someone come on and make rude comments about there choice in sponsons and the Dyno numbers they make is wrong.
Colonel I want to say I am sorry about the cursing in the other post and it won't happen again.
Pete
Colonel I want to say I am sorry about the cursing in the other post and it won't happen again.
Pete
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Ragtop I wanna thank u got giving that explanation
Sometimes it worth sitting back and letting others back u up the same info we got.
I will have Dynatech info sometime next week
The Colonel is right this is an informative borad and we wanna help people wit hour findings,not flame war.
I wanna thank all the guys on here that stand stood by me and r waiting patiently for the results.U wont be dissapointed.
Macs VS Dynas comming soon...
JS
Sometimes it worth sitting back and letting others back u up the same info we got.
I will have Dynatech info sometime next week
The Colonel is right this is an informative borad and we wanna help people wit hour findings,not flame war.
I wanna thank all the guys on here that stand stood by me and r waiting patiently for the results.U wont be dissapointed.
Macs VS Dynas comming soon...
JS
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<img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> Great call <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" />
Not really involved,but had to say
Thank you! It seems Terry has lost
sight of the Track.He is now concentrating
on bench racing,and the inflated
EGO required for qualification.Racing
was and is a sport to compete.Spending
your time bashing racers,sponsors,and
anyone else is poor sportsmanship!
And isn't really required,new ideas
and combinations have motivated racers
for years. RULE#1 On any given day,there
can be someone faster,Know it and get
over it <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
<img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> Great call <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" />
Not really involved,but had to say
Thank you! It seems Terry has lost
sight of the Track.He is now concentrating
on bench racing,and the inflated
EGO required for qualification.Racing
was and is a sport to compete.Spending
your time bashing racers,sponsors,and
anyone else is poor sportsmanship!
And isn't really required,new ideas
and combinations have motivated racers
for years. RULE#1 On any given day,there
can be someone faster,Know it and get
over it <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by NYNJRacer:
<strong>No, I don't think he can. He has permanent diarrhea of the mouth.. Or maybe some oddball turrets syndrome where he just spouts off this garbage uncontrollably.. He doesn't know anything, so why bother trying to explain it to him.. We had 4 3-year old kids come into the shop today and it only took 3 min to explain it to them.. Oh, they thought he was an ^&$##$, too... See, no name calling... lol
Abe <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Stop trying to get Terry Cheeseburger to be quiet! It gives the rest of us some comic relief after a long work week! Preach on Terry, your A-Ok in my book....Every board needs a few assclowns and you fit the bill perfectly!
By the way Terry, remember a few weeks back you were bashing MTI's cams, saying how they sucked down low? I responded to you asking you how come I cut two 1.64 short times and a 1.65 short time using an MTI cam with my tiny Vig 2800 convertor if my MTI cam has no low-end? I 'believe' thats the best 60 ft time anyone has gotten from the Vig 2800 at 3400+ lbs launching on motor. I have stock gears as well. I really need some low end torque....
[ February 02, 2002: Message edited by: Kenny H ]</p>
<strong>No, I don't think he can. He has permanent diarrhea of the mouth.. Or maybe some oddball turrets syndrome where he just spouts off this garbage uncontrollably.. He doesn't know anything, so why bother trying to explain it to him.. We had 4 3-year old kids come into the shop today and it only took 3 min to explain it to them.. Oh, they thought he was an ^&$##$, too... See, no name calling... lol
Abe <img src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" border="0" alt="[judgement]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Stop trying to get Terry Cheeseburger to be quiet! It gives the rest of us some comic relief after a long work week! Preach on Terry, your A-Ok in my book....Every board needs a few assclowns and you fit the bill perfectly!
By the way Terry, remember a few weeks back you were bashing MTI's cams, saying how they sucked down low? I responded to you asking you how come I cut two 1.64 short times and a 1.65 short time using an MTI cam with my tiny Vig 2800 convertor if my MTI cam has no low-end? I 'believe' thats the best 60 ft time anyone has gotten from the Vig 2800 at 3400+ lbs launching on motor. I have stock gears as well. I really need some low end torque....
[ February 02, 2002: Message edited by: Kenny H ]</p>
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JS-------------------------> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
Terry-----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Thats the bottem line.
Terry get use to it..... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
JS
Terry-----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Thats the bottem line.
Terry get use to it..... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
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Hey JS I can't easily race you but I'm sure some of my MMS buds out your way will do me proud. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Terry your MMS buds r my friends
EG TTR,Pete,Scott M.,and the list goes on..
U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
Once again Terry check this out!!!
Get used to it Big T...
JS---------------------------> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
Terry----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
JS
EG TTR,Pete,Scott M.,and the list goes on..
U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
Once again Terry check this out!!!
Get used to it Big T...
JS---------------------------> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
Terry----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by JS:
<strong>JS-------------------------> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
Terry-----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Thats the bottem line.
Terry get use to it..... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
JS</strong><hr></blockquote>
All the name calling in these threads pisses me off, but this was pretty creative and funny.
<strong>JS-------------------------> <img src="graemlins/formula.gif" border="0" alt="[Pontiac]" />
Terry-----> <img src="graemlins/camaro.gif" border="0" alt="[Chevrolet]" />
Thats the bottem line.
Terry get use to it..... <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
JS</strong><hr></blockquote>
All the name calling in these threads pisses me off, but this was pretty creative and funny.
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Attention Moderators,
Can we please, please set strictly enforced guidelines against name calling and long-running personal vendettas? Arguing and disputing is one thing, but stuff that gets too personal, left uncontrolled, could do a lot of damage to the overall character and desirability of this board.
This place is great - let's keep it that way.
Can we please, please set strictly enforced guidelines against name calling and long-running personal vendettas? Arguing and disputing is one thing, but stuff that gets too personal, left uncontrolled, could do a lot of damage to the overall character and desirability of this board.
This place is great - let's keep it that way.
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U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
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lol don't worry I'll arm myself before I show up with you crazy east coasters. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> The west coasters know where to find me, LACR or Carlsbad raceway.
BTW I know what cam you're running now, you big liar. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
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lol don't worry I'll arm myself before I show up with you crazy east coasters. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> The west coasters know where to find me, LACR or Carlsbad raceway.
BTW I know what cam you're running now, you big liar. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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"Arguing and disputing is one thing, but stuff that gets too personal, left uncontrolled, could do a lot of damage to the overall character and desirability of this board."
I agree. It's something that is now going to have to be discussed.
Thanks to all of you that keep an adult like attitude here. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
I agree. It's something that is now going to have to be discussed.
Thanks to all of you that keep an adult like attitude here. <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">
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[quote]Originally posted by JS:
<strong>U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
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Well, I'll be serving refreshments at that one......muhahahhaha
Drink up guys.......
<strong>U know Terry its gonna be fun when u actuall show up at an Event.I hear the NFRA is gonna have the Kick Terrys *** Booth and ALOT of people have already signed up....
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Well, I'll be serving refreshments at that one......muhahahhaha
Drink up guys.......
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Terry u know TEE TEE....
The funny thing is Joe is stupid enough to believe the cam box w/my name on it was MY CAM...
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I took your dyno chart and overlayed it with several 224 and 230 cam dyno charts to come to my conclusion. That combined with the common sense of your swap to more gear, more stall, and the fact that you already had a good 224 cam tells me the story. What did you "lose" a fake cam card and "let" Joe find it or something? lol
Terry u know TEE TEE....
The funny thing is Joe is stupid enough to believe the cam box w/my name on it was MY CAM...
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I took your dyno chart and overlayed it with several 224 and 230 cam dyno charts to come to my conclusion. That combined with the common sense of your swap to more gear, more stall, and the fact that you already had a good 224 cam tells me the story. What did you "lose" a fake cam card and "let" Joe find it or something? lol
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I dont really have much to say except that I'm proud of you JS....finally your posts are being made in english!
Since when is Joe stupid? You used to be one of his c0ckriders, and now look...so sad. <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />
Reguardless of whatever you have in your car, those are some bad *** dyno numbers. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
Since when is Joe stupid? You used to be one of his c0ckriders, and now look...so sad. <img src="graemlins/gr_cry.gif" border="0" alt="[whiner]" />
Reguardless of whatever you have in your car, those are some bad *** dyno numbers. <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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But I find it in bad taste that after all the bad stuff u said about him to MANY people he would trust u in anyway.U knocked his heads continually and said my JPR setup was ALL CONVERTER,REMEMBER?
Or did u forget that too Terry?
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I never said anything "bad" about Joe. I simply insisted that the heads you had were more than "stage 1" heads. Looking back it looks like you had more cam than you let on to the entire time. I also said your car was all launch, and it was. The parts you had on the car worked well with it, remember I was the first to reply to your for sale post when you put them up for $500. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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No Terry I put the TR cam in the Comp box as a joke last week and wrote my name on it to fool Joe
I wanted to see if he would fall for it and Joe was dumb enough to email u the wrong info ad email me saying nce cam!!Oh man did I have a laugh.I knew Joe would fall for that.
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Hah well the joke is on you then, he never emailed me anything. Like I've said time will tell all, hopefully you'll at least run 120mph now with that sled. BTW what happened to the Thunder Racing kick? Not in to them anymore either? I don't know HOW anyone could sponsor someone like you.
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Terry your not so bad SOOOO I'll show u how u look one more time when racing me....
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Hah you wish. Sure I'm only running 11.6 on motor right now, but I've got a 150 shot of juice on the car I use on the street. I'd gladly open the bottle and show your big dollar trailer queen my tail lights.
But I find it in bad taste that after all the bad stuff u said about him to MANY people he would trust u in anyway.U knocked his heads continually and said my JPR setup was ALL CONVERTER,REMEMBER?
Or did u forget that too Terry?
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I never said anything "bad" about Joe. I simply insisted that the heads you had were more than "stage 1" heads. Looking back it looks like you had more cam than you let on to the entire time. I also said your car was all launch, and it was. The parts you had on the car worked well with it, remember I was the first to reply to your for sale post when you put them up for $500. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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No Terry I put the TR cam in the Comp box as a joke last week and wrote my name on it to fool Joe
I wanted to see if he would fall for it and Joe was dumb enough to email u the wrong info ad email me saying nce cam!!Oh man did I have a laugh.I knew Joe would fall for that.
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Hah well the joke is on you then, he never emailed me anything. Like I've said time will tell all, hopefully you'll at least run 120mph now with that sled. BTW what happened to the Thunder Racing kick? Not in to them anymore either? I don't know HOW anyone could sponsor someone like you.
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Terry your not so bad SOOOO I'll show u how u look one more time when racing me....
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Hah you wish. Sure I'm only running 11.6 on motor right now, but I've got a 150 shot of juice on the car I use on the street. I'd gladly open the bottle and show your big dollar trailer queen my tail lights.