RyanJ

jordon runs about a 10.35 in his LT1 close to full weight. 6 spd, 401cid, some nitrous.

Terry Burger

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There are not too many choices for you, either another 382/388 or a 422/427. I don't think you'll want to drop the big bucks on a solid setup, so I predict a 500rwhp 422. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

If you were "cool" you'd do a direct port 382ci motor. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Nine Ball

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[quote]jordon runs about a 10.35 in his LT1 close to full weight. 6 spd, 401cid, some nitrous<hr></blockquote>

what does Jordon run without nitrous? I'm not planning on nitrous just yet. I don't feel like upgrading the entire fuel system this year.

Terry, there are a ton of available cranks now, you can basically get whatever size you want. I know MTI has already installed a 4.25" stroke in a car (449ci with a 4.10 bore). I prefer square or oversquare motors though, so we are considering different bore sizes and crank sizes.

But, you never know, I might show up with the direct port 39Xci setup as well <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Tony

Linear Velocity

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Tony, just a suggestion, if you're planning on keeping your car a daily driver I wouldn't go with the Dynatech's. They have no emissions hook-ups and the slip on collectors have been known to leak, Grot's are the way to go baby!

RyanJ

speed, do you work for Grot now? sheesh. it is a viable suggestion in this case though. although you can weld collectors on.

sorry tony, i didnt see your 'on motor' notation there. he runs about a 10.8. id shoot for 10.5 just to be safe <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Ryan

XLR8NSS

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[quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
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I prefer square or oversquare motors though, so we are considering different bore sizes and crank sizes.
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>

Hmmm....A square motor thats not a 422.

4.1 bore * 4.1 stroke = 433ci. <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0">

Sounds good to me. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Johnnie

1BADtruck

Tony,how long will be to the new motor,cant wait for the competition.I will have my new heads,cam combo ready for install in a month <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

If your not ready then,I will give you something to shoot for <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0"> before the stock bottom end blows and I build up the "secert killer combo"

Allan

Linear Velocity

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Underdog: Nope don't work there <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> . Just went through the whole Dynatech vs. Grot headers a lot, I went with the Grot's and I need to justify spending the extra $$$, so I guess I need to be gung ho about them <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> Both headers are great IMO though

Nine Ball

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I can't get a deal on the Grot headers like I can with the Dynatechs, and I can just weld those collectors on no problem <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Allan, don't make me add power AND remove weight <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> . Haven't decided on solid roller or not, it all depends on final costs involved. I'd rather have hydraulic + cubes than a solid roller.

so 10.80s is the quickest all-motor T56 4th-gen F-body? Damn, that is TOO easy of a goal! I should be able to beat that mid-summer <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">

Tony

ChrisB

Hey tony, if you get the dynatech's weld on a set of real collectors

http://www.burnsstainless.com/MergeC...ollectors.html

Chris

Crazyquik

You can get Dynatechs with merge collectors, not custom tailored ones like that though.

JordonMusser

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yea, I am surprised that record has standed for anything length of time.. race weigh was 3700lbs, with a crummy 60ft.

best 1/8th mile on juice was 6.43 @ 112.. guessing about a 9.8-9.9 @ 145ish.(never ran it 1/4mi with that much juice.. 200 shot).

100 shot went 10.3@ 137

Bob2of3

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How about a motorsports block bored out to 4.25 combined with a 4.125 crank to = 468cid

Not sure if you want to spend that kind of coin or if that block can handle that bore but if it can WOW <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

LAter <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

1BADtruck

10.80's,thats chump change.Iam gonna give you something better than that by the summer <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0"> you better dig deeeeep and go see jenny craig <img src="gr_tounge.gif" border="0">


Allan

Nine Ball

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Hey Bob, MTI has already installed a 4.25" stroker crank with no problems. The largest bore that *might* work with their custom sleeves is 4.20", but I do not really want to go with that thin of a cylinder wall or that big of a stroke.

Besides that, these HUGE motors are still somewhat limited by the intake setup. Almost a waste of cubes it seems.

500+ rwhp in a daily-drivable setup would be plenty for me. More is good though <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Tony

Aircooled

[quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>

there are a ton of available cranks now, you can basically get whatever size you want.
Tony</strong><hr></blockquote>

Please enlighten us. Who is currently supplying non-custom cranks other than Lunati? Is anyone undercutting Lunati's prices yet? It still irks me that a gen 1 crank is half the price of an equivilant gen 3.

Steve

BradWS6

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Tony congrats on selling your motor <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0"> look foreword to what you have coming out later this year <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

TrahnZam WS6

[quote]Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>Besides that, these HUGE motors are still somewhat limited by the intake setup. Almost a waste of cubes it seems.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Which is why you fully plan on getting a Holly intake extrued honed and port matched to your heads along with tapping it for direct port lines, yes? <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> Good luck with your new setup Tony, Im guessing it will be super stealthy and have zero knock <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0"> BTW, I just sold my grots so stepped dynatechs and an X pipe are going on this weekend <img src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" border="0">

2000SS

good luck tony,

i cant wait to see your new motor run!!!i have many passes of your car on video tape, its definitely one of my favorites to watch go down the track!!!hope all is well

thanks,
wayne

XLR8NSS

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[quote]Originally posted by Aircooled:
<strong>

Please enlighten us. Who is currently supplying non-custom cranks other than Lunati? Is anyone undercutting Lunati's prices yet? It still irks me that a gen 1 crank is half the price of an equivilant gen 3.

Steve</strong><hr></blockquote>

Can you imagine the back log on 422+ size motors when somebody finally comes out with an affordable stroker crank? <img src="gr_eek2.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">

Johnnie