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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:46 AM
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Exclamation HELP!!! have 2 rounded off rocker bolts

is there any way to get them off? all the other ones came out fine.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:49 AM
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is there any way to get them off? all the other ones came out fine.
have you tried a 6 point socket?
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:52 AM
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like one that doesn't look like a hexagon on the inside? if so, then yes.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NviouSS
like one that doesn't look like a hexagon on the inside? if so, then yes.
well the one you need will have 6 points on the inside. There is a 6 point and a 12 point. The 6 point will fit the bolt better than the 12
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 12:58 AM
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this is a 6 point. http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...U.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
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12 pointhttp://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0...1.MZZZZZZZ.jpg
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i've used both on them.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:08 AM
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try to get those bolt extractors from craftsman? the ones that look like sockets but have sharp grips inside them.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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well if they are rounded off I would try to tap a metric 7.5mm on the end of the bolt. It's takes an 8mm so a 7.5 should be able to be tapped on. I have heard of this but I have never rounded one off yet.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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Which ones are stuck? You might have to drill it and use an ez out...if it is the front cylinders. Maybe you can get a small pair of vice grips in there. If all else fails you could probably get a grinder/dremel and take the head of the bolts off and pull the rocker, then use a pair of vice grips.

Also, make sure the valves you are trying to loosen are in the fully closed position to take any load off of the rocker bolt. This will also help you loosen them.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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try to get those bolt extractors from craftsman? the ones that look like sockets but have sharp grips inside them.
i may have to. i just read about it after searching how i could get it out



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well if they are rounded off I would try to tap a metric 7.5mm on the end of the bolt. It's takes an 8mm so a 7.5 should be able to be tapped on. I have heard of this but I have never rounded one off yet.
do they even make a 7.5?
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Which ones are stuck? You might have to drill it and use an ez out...if it is the front cylinders. Maybe you can get a small pair of vice grips in there. If all else fails you could probably get a grinder/dremel and take the head of the bolts off and pull the rocker, then use a pair of vice grips.

Also, make sure the valves you are trying to loosen are in the fully closed position to take any load off of the rocker bolt. This will also help you loosen them.

the intake side of #2 and #6 i believe
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i may have to. i just read about it after searching how i could get it out





do they even make a 7.5?
yea they do. I have several. They are mostly in the 1/4 drive sockets. You can get one a Walmart for cheap. Just make sure you get a 6 point
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If you have a welder you can also weld a bolt or nut on top of the stripped head and put your wrench on that. The #2 is real easy to get to. The #6 would be hard to get an ez out to work because you have to drill them. Although the socket style bolt removers may work, I do not know if they will fit down in the rocker where the bolt head is recessed.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 02:54 AM
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If he doesn't know what a 6pt. is chances are he used the 12pt. first and rounded the corners off before trying the 6pt. The underside of the bolt head face is locktited to the face of the bolt tower. It takes a lot more force to break the locktite than the torque value of the bolt. Drilling the bolt? That's a recipe for disaster in this case. Time for some heavy duty vice grips on the ones that are rounded off. Give it a nice hard quick snap and the locktite will break loose which is what you should done in the first place with a 6pt. socket on a 3/8 drive breaker bar. Then you can turn the bolts out with your finger. You should have ask this question BEFORE you rounded the bolt heads off. The Craftsman tool would probably work too, but having that around would only give him an excuse to take shortcuts again in the future. Better to do it right the first time and not have rat yourself out by asking a question such as this. A 6pt. 3/8 drive 8mm socket from SnapOn will cost you just under $10, but it's money well spent.

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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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I rounded a rocker arm bolt before when my socket cracked. I used the Craftsman bolt extractor kit and it worked really well. While I was at Sears I picked up an 8mm impact socket and that solved the problem of cracking another socket on those bolts.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mvvette97
well the one you need will have 6 points on the inside. There is a 6 point and a 12 point. The 6 point will fit the bolt better than the 12
you absolutely canNOT use a chrome socket on them or you will round them off everytime. Its not if, its when. Get you a black impact socket and you will get them off. If that doesnt work, grind the top of the bolt clean and get a larger nut. Set the nut on top of it and tack weld it on there and you will get it off with an end wrench. Ive done it that way also for people who do the same thing as you.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Had this same problem yesterday... I tapped on a junker 7mm socket and got it off.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by eallanboggs
If he doesn't know what a 6pt. is chances are he used the 12pt. first and rounded the corners off before trying the 6pt. The underside of the bolt head face is locktited to the face of the bolt tower. It takes a lot more force to break the locktite than the torque value of the bolt. Drilling the bolt? That's a recipe for disaster in this case. Time for some heavy duty vice grips on the ones that are rounded off. Give it a nice hard quick snap and the locktite will break loose which is what you should done in the first place with a 6pt. socket on a 3/8 drive breaker bar. Then you can turn the bolts out with your finger. You should have ask this question BEFORE you rounded the bolt heads off. The Craftsman tool would probably work too, but having that around would only give him an excuse to take shortcuts again in the future. Better to do it right the first time and not have rat yourself out by asking a question such as this. A 6pt. 3/8 drive 8mm socket from SnapOn will cost you just under $10, but it's money well spent.

it got rounded off when the 6 pt broke fyi.
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Old Jan 3, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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i picked up a bolt remover kit and was able to get one of the bolts out. i can't get the one on #6 to budge.
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