Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads?
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Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? I've decided to go with a H/C package. I've pretty much decide on the T1 cam. I realize it is subject to opinion, but everyone seems to agree that MTI does great head work, but I'm not sure if I should go with stage 1 or stage 2 for my daily driver and weekly drag car? I respect your opinions.
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? About an average 12-15 rwhp difference between the two. Thats worth about 2 tenths and 2 mph at the track.
Personally, I always tell people to do things right the first time and just spend a little more. Messing with internal motor mods is something you don't want to have to do twice because you didn't get the items you really wanted the first time around.
Tony
Personally, I always tell people to do things right the first time and just spend a little more. Messing with internal motor mods is something you don't want to have to do twice because you didn't get the items you really wanted the first time around.
Tony
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Thanks for the input. I am going to get the stageII heads. What cam would you recommend for a 00 M6 with most the bolt-ons incl. Macs with orp and Borla. I want an aggressive cam but one I can live with day to day. I'm going to get Ed Wright to do a program for me, also I'm going to get a LS6 intake. Should I get my TB ported? I would like to place my order with MTI ASAP.Thanks a lot for your help. I can smell the 11,s <img src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" border="0" alt="[hail]" /> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Paul, go with the MTI C1 or T1 cam. They are so close you won't notice any difference, but the C1 has a tiny bit more lift. Performance and drivability are identical.
Don't get Ed Wright to do your tuning, MTI can handle that in house now and use their own LS1-EDIT programming.
Tony
Don't get Ed Wright to do your tuning, MTI can handle that in house now and use their own LS1-EDIT programming.
Tony
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Thanks guys, I appreciate the input. Tony, What cam would you recommend for a M6 car with all the boltons incl. Macs w/ orp? I am going to pony up for the stage II's. I want an aggressive cam, but one I can live with day to day.I am going to get Ed wright to do a program for me, and I'm going to add the LS6 intake. { Car is a oo] I would li
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Tony, sorry about the double post. I'm starting to get people telling me thats a lot of money for the heads. I realize the best parts , and experience , are not cheap. I really feel that it's worth paying for proven performance. Do we ever get any group purchases on this board with MTI? Do you have any idea what they get for programming? Thanks
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? [quote]Originally posted by NastySS00:
<strong>Tony, sorry about the double post. I'm starting to get people telling me thats a lot of money for the heads. I realize the best parts , and experience , are not cheap. I really feel that it's worth paying for proven performance. Do we ever get any group purchases on this board with MTI? Do you have any idea what they get for programming? Thanks
Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>
As far as the heads go, I only remember MTI doing one group purchase for those. Their heads are in such high demand that they really have no need to do a gp. I know they do usually have a cam and install sale at least twice a year. As far as programming, goes, the last I heard is that it's around $500 or so. I don't know if the pricing has changed since ls1 edit came into the scene though.
<strong>Tony, sorry about the double post. I'm starting to get people telling me thats a lot of money for the heads. I realize the best parts , and experience , are not cheap. I really feel that it's worth paying for proven performance. Do we ever get any group purchases on this board with MTI? Do you have any idea what they get for programming? Thanks
Paul</strong><hr></blockquote>
As far as the heads go, I only remember MTI doing one group purchase for those. Their heads are in such high demand that they really have no need to do a gp. I know they do usually have a cam and install sale at least twice a year. As far as programming, goes, the last I heard is that it's around $500 or so. I don't know if the pricing has changed since ls1 edit came into the scene though.
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Thanks Gary, I'm gonna pony up and order my MTI h/c package. Good stuff aint cheap, and cheap stuff aint good!! Thanks everyone. T1 and Stage II heads will be ordered this week! <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Feel free to contact the owner of MTI via email about tuning pricing/questions. JaysonMTI@aol.com
I'm really not sure what they charge now that LS1-EDIT has arrived.
Paul, you are correct, you get what you pay for. Many of the other shops are still not using the custom dual-spring setup that MTI uses on their heads. These custom components add about $500 of parts and machining to the heads to utilize them. Only the best quality hardware is used, and you can be sure your heads have the same attention to detail that every one of theirs receive. MTI does not supply any other shops, and is very strict at maintaining consistency and quality control standards. You will not find an MTI heads/cam car owner that is not happy with the performance, and there are a TON of cars with the track times to prove it.
Tony
I'm really not sure what they charge now that LS1-EDIT has arrived.
Paul, you are correct, you get what you pay for. Many of the other shops are still not using the custom dual-spring setup that MTI uses on their heads. These custom components add about $500 of parts and machining to the heads to utilize them. Only the best quality hardware is used, and you can be sure your heads have the same attention to detail that every one of theirs receive. MTI does not supply any other shops, and is very strict at maintaining consistency and quality control standards. You will not find an MTI heads/cam car owner that is not happy with the performance, and there are a TON of cars with the track times to prove it.
Tony
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Re: Stage 1 or Stage 2 Heads? Thanks Tony, To say I'm excited would be the understatement of the year! I'm a very avid drag racer and after 5 years of racing LT1 , LS1 bolt-on cars I'm ready to step up to some real performance. If I can get high to mid 11's around 118 to 120 I'll be very happy. I dont hammer the car on launches, so my ET might lack a little, but I'm looking for good MPH and consistency. <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0"> <img src="gr_grin.gif" border="0">
