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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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I'm far from an expert.
broken valve spring?(excessive valvetrain noise)
PCM screwed up?

I'd pull the valve covers and take a look.
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:13 PM
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Pulled the covers, everything appears to be fine
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Low vaccum maybe why the MAF got a code. Gas coming out of tail pipe? Black smoke or dripping gas. Are injecters pulsing or staying on? That's the only code? Is compression good? Just some ideas to look at. hope this helps. <img src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" border="0">
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Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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Also I for got my notes at work but it needs to run before relearn. that keeps u from getting missfrie codes. (new crank). my post way up there is how the computer does it by itself or Tech 2 can do it in seconds.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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"Off a tooth"

BZZZZZT!

You would have bent valves when you started up the motor Dave.

Do you have to give it gas on startup, like half-floored or more, and then it runs really crappy and rich?

Pushrods might be too long. Check lifter preload. What length pushrods are you running? I'm guesssing you should have 7.350's.
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Old Mar 5, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Call Matt.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Thanks for the replies guys.

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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Okay just got back from seeing the car.

No Maf code now..

Getting only the p300 (random misfire right?)

Car missfires like freaking crazy... but isnt setting a code for it.. the SES doest flash like it would if it had a plug wire off.. but man it sure feels like 4 are off..

Timing is good, INjetor pulswidth is same numbers they were before.. thats good
LT's i had about 0ish

HOWEVER.. ST Trims were -17 - -22 the car loads up like ad and wants to die.

The valvetrain is noisey as hell, Nick A said the new valvetrainer is lighter so it might be quieter.. <img src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0">

i goin nuts here.. it will only idle on its own for about 2 mins and thats after you change the plugs...

guys?

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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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Car is running extremely rich. It's taking out a large amount of fuel.

What air induction do you have?

Use a MAF T to lean it out or something.
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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John <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

alredy tried that..

didnt help

like i said i had the LT trims to close to 0.. but the ST were wild like that

weird huh

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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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Did they reconnect all the grounds on the back of the driver side head?? <img src="gr_stretch.gif" border="0">

MAP sensor plugged in??

do any mods to the fuel system??
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:06 PM
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Check to see if your rockers are coming into contact with the valve retainers. This could be bleeding off cylinder pressure and make it missfire like a ****. Lash caps...why? They could be hitting the bottom-side of the rockers. Maybe?
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:09 PM
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Matt,

all 3 grounds are attached.

Fuel system is the same.. no changed..

As far as i know the map is plugged in..


As far as the lash caps.. I have no idea why!!! NONE..
ARE says use 7.250 pushrods with 8o thou last caps
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:12 PM
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Please, please, please check the rocker to valve spring clearance just to be safe.
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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better yet, run it w/ the valve covers off

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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Doublechecked and the rockers are NOT hitting anything.. i just called them, and according to them that was checked and double checked to be safe.

Matt, Map Senser is plugged in
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Old Mar 7, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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what kind of springs are on the heads? double? if so you need to clearance your 98 valve covers or it will hold open the valves on the 4 corners of the motor.. i would check this reguardless.. it happend to me. <img src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" border="0" alt="[barf]" />

car ran really bad, much unburned fuel in the exhaust, no codes, terrible idle etc.

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