Which timing chain?
Re: Which timing chain? I used the Cloyes Hex-Adjust with JWIS chain. If I had known, I would have saved almost $100 and bought the SLP "double roller" BTW, my stock chain with 10K miles on it was really loose. The new one is nice!
John
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Re: Which timing chain? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JohnR:
<strong>I used the Cloyes Hex-Adjust with JWIS chain. If I had known, I would have saved almost $100 and bought the SLP "double roller" BTW, my stock chain with 10K miles on it was really loose. The new one is nice!
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did you buy the chain by itself? If so, where and how much?
<strong>I used the Cloyes Hex-Adjust with JWIS chain. If I had known, I would have saved almost $100 and bought the SLP "double roller" BTW, my stock chain with 10K miles on it was really loose. The new one is nice!
John</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Did you buy the chain by itself? If so, where and how much?
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Re: Which timing chain? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>How much is SLP's double roller? I'd like to get that one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Speed Inc. has it on their website for $130. I'm not sure they are available quite yet. But I know they are coming out soon if they aren't already out.
ARE has the Rollmaster double roller timing set. I think its around $160.
Mike
<strong>How much is SLP's double roller? I'd like to get that one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Speed Inc. has it on their website for $130. I'm not sure they are available quite yet. But I know they are coming out soon if they aren't already out.
ARE has the Rollmaster double roller timing set. I think its around $160.
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Re: Which timing chain? Which chain was the one that was breaking?
Didnt they have a problem with them a while back?
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Didnt they have a problem with them a while back?
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Re: Which timing chain? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Ken:
<strong>Which chain was the one that was breaking?
Didnt they have a problem with them a while back?
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Ken</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Ken,
I'm using the cloyes set with the Indy chain. It looks like a pretty solid setup. The chain looks good and the tension is right. Also, make sure you use a matched set of gears, I've seen guys try to use the stock crank gear with the cloyes cam gear and end up with a loose chain.
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<strong>Which chain was the one that was breaking?
Didnt they have a problem with them a while back?
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Ken</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Ken,
I'm using the cloyes set with the Indy chain. It looks like a pretty solid setup. The chain looks good and the tension is right. Also, make sure you use a matched set of gears, I've seen guys try to use the stock crank gear with the cloyes cam gear and end up with a loose chain.
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Shane
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Verdad Gallardo Re: Which timing chain? Here's a litle info for you'all when you do the Cloyes timing chain. You have to lower the oil pan in order to remove the single bolt that secures the oil pickup to the pump. Be very careful that you don't drop it into the pan. I stuffed a clean paper towel in the gap to prevent accidental loss of small parts into the oil pan. Getting the oil pump back onto the crank was a little awkward but it went on OK once I got the spline lined up. I used the old crank gear to press on the new Cloyes crank gear.
I believe that you need to follow a procedure to install the timing cover and oil pan so they properly lineup and don't bind. Here's how I did it. Temporarily bolt up the oil pan so the timing cover will go on vertical, and not rotate about the crank. Align and secure the timing cover. (remember to use a small amount of gasket sealer in the lower corners). Then install the oil pan screws into the timing cover but don't tighten yet. Then snug all the screws on the oil pan. Next, tighten the screws on the bellhousing which pulls the oil pan toward the rear. Finally, tighten all the rest of the oil pan screws. I used a torque wrench on everything I possibly could because I'm afraid of damaging the aluminum block. You might want to use a shop-vac to suck out some of the coolant that is still in the block waiting to drip down into your oil pan.
Have fun,
John
I believe that you need to follow a procedure to install the timing cover and oil pan so they properly lineup and don't bind. Here's how I did it. Temporarily bolt up the oil pan so the timing cover will go on vertical, and not rotate about the crank. Align and secure the timing cover. (remember to use a small amount of gasket sealer in the lower corners). Then install the oil pan screws into the timing cover but don't tighten yet. Then snug all the screws on the oil pan. Next, tighten the screws on the bellhousing which pulls the oil pan toward the rear. Finally, tighten all the rest of the oil pan screws. I used a torque wrench on everything I possibly could because I'm afraid of damaging the aluminum block. You might want to use a shop-vac to suck out some of the coolant that is still in the block waiting to drip down into your oil pan.
Have fun,
John
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Re: Which timing chain? Thanks for the lesson, but I have it a little more easy since the new motor is out of the car. also since I have a few LS1s under my belt. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Which timing chain? [/qb][/QUOTE]Hey Ken,
I'm using the cloyes set with the Indy chain. It looks like a pretty solid setup. The chain looks good and the tension is right. Also, make sure you use a matched set of gears, I've seen guys try to use the stock crank gear with the cloyes cam gear and end up with a loose chain.
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Shane[/QB][/QUOTE]
Yeah I heard the cloyes is the way to go. I might just do the cloyes myself.
Plus its adjustible!
Ken
I'm using the cloyes set with the Indy chain. It looks like a pretty solid setup. The chain looks good and the tension is right. Also, make sure you use a matched set of gears, I've seen guys try to use the stock crank gear with the cloyes cam gear and end up with a loose chain.
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Shane[/QB][/QUOTE]
Yeah I heard the cloyes is the way to go. I might just do the cloyes myself.
Plus its adjustible!
Ken
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Re: Which timing chain? I also see on the Speed Inc web site that the SLP #5500 double roller adjustable timing set is $130. Good price, but [if] this is the Rollmaster that requires shimming, etc, I dont want any part of it.
Looking for a good quality chain and gears that dont require the pan to be dropped or shimming. Slap it in dot-to-dot and forget it....
Being in Korea right now makes it hard for me to get info. Can anyone here find out what the deal is.
Ron,
Looking for a good quality chain and gears that dont require the pan to be dropped or shimming. Slap it in dot-to-dot and forget it....
Being in Korea right now makes it hard for me to get info. Can anyone here find out what the deal is.
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Re: Which timing chain? I looked a little closer at the SLP timing kit on Speed Inc's web site. I see that it comes with an oil pump spacer.... Like I said, I just want a "remove and replace" timing set.
I think my choice may just be the Comp Cams 5153KT. $160 from about everyone (plug & play)
I think my choice may just be the Comp Cams 5153KT. $160 from about everyone (plug & play)
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Re: Which timing chain? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
I think my choice may just be the Comp Cams 5153KT. $160 from about everyone (plug & play)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Careful, it's a Cloyes with a Stock Chain.
<small>[ April 02, 2002, 01:57 PM: Message edited by: MelloYellow ]</small>
I think my choice may just be the Comp Cams 5153KT. $160 from about everyone (plug & play)</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Careful, it's a Cloyes with a Stock Chain.
<small>[ April 02, 2002, 01:57 PM: Message edited by: MelloYellow ]</small>
Re: Which timing chain? So what good, stronger, aftermarket chain can we get that is plug and play and we don't need the gear set with it? Just a stronger replacement. Thanks.
Re: Which timing chain? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>So what good, stronger, aftermarket chain can we get that is plug and play and we don't need the gear set with it? Just a stronger replacement. Thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I asked that same question to Thunder Racing. Two weeks later I had a beefy chain in the mail, and was out 150. The new chain is a couple thousands thicker than the stock.
<strong>So what good, stronger, aftermarket chain can we get that is plug and play and we don't need the gear set with it? Just a stronger replacement. Thanks.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I asked that same question to Thunder Racing. Two weeks later I had a beefy chain in the mail, and was out 150. The new chain is a couple thousands thicker than the stock.
