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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 01:26 PM
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anymore opinions im trying to get as many as i can so i can narrow down my decisions...

patriot springs or comp???
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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I say patriot gold duals if you go g5x3. If you go 224 then comp 918's.
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Buy my 232/236 .595 601 114 cam... it is avail now... 2K on it.. bought it new.. I made 401/375 through bolt ons and a Yank SY 3500..

This cam has a very aggressive idle.. makes great power and is VERY streetable..

Or you can pay $400+ for a new one..
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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42... Not as old as you... but older than most here...

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and how old are you old guy? 49 here
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by PewterY2KZ28
Buy my 232/236 .595 601 114 cam... it is avail now... 2K on it.. bought it new.. I made 401/375 through bolt ons and a Yank SY 3500..

This cam has a very aggressive idle.. makes great power and is VERY streetable..

Or you can pay $400+ for a new one..
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Matt you tend to always leave out the fact your converter was unlocked (not that I care, just saying to show the cam makes power). You know guys on the internet only speak in terms of the highest HP possible. I guess you missed that memo.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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Thanks Brandon...
LG is picking my car up this weekend...

Louis is building me a motor...

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& yes, i forgot to mention that.. Some of the internet cheerleaders distracted me for a moment...

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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Matt you tend to always leave out the fact your converter was unlocked (not that I care, just saying to show the cam makes power). You know guys on the internet only speak in terms of the highest HP possible. I guess you missed that memo.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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is the G5X4 too much for the street?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Matt you tend to always leave out the fact your converter was unlocked (not that I care, just saying to show the cam makes power). You know guys on the internet only speak in terms of the highest HP possible. I guess you missed that memo.

what does it do different when the converter is locked or not locked im not really the most intelligent about automatic trans's...
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
what does it do different when the converter is locked or not locked im not really the most intelligent about automatic trans's...
Late model and high end converters have the ability to lock due to what you would understand as a clutch pack. It is done electronically and usually just for unloaded highway use. So your flywheel to driveshaft ratio becomes 1:1 instead of allowing the % of slip the converter usually has. The dyno results will show about 20whp or so from locked to unlocked for your H/C type 346.
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
is the G5X4 too much for the street?
Honestly, for most people that would DD or take a date out in, I would say yes. Any of you guys can get on here and talk about your tuner or whatever, but in the end its a big cam, period. I am leaning back more old school to sacrificing alittle up top for more in the middle. Less tuning hastle, less surging, less of all the "big" cam attributes. Just decide if you want something that you will not hate a month after you do it, or you want a race car.
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by PewterY2KZ28
42... Not as old as you... but older than most here...

Sorry to hijak.. he asked...
well you did refer to yourself as an 'old guy' in your neighborhood, quote "WTF is this old guy driving" so I just wondered how old old was now
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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well i wanna streetable race car like i stated somewhere above i drive it alot and i take it down to the 1/4 mile sometimes with friends. im young so pissing off my neighbors i dont care about after all its going to be running through headers, x pipe, no cats and rue duals dumped before the axle. this is just a big investment in a cam setup and want to do it right the first time ya know?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PewterY2KZ28
Buy my 232/236 .595 601 114 cam... it is avail now... 2K on it.. bought it new.. I made 401/375 through bolt ons and a Yank SY 3500..

This cam has a very aggressive idle.. makes great power and is VERY streetable..
Very streetable with a 3500 stall is not the same as with a stick shift at low rpms. A stall will mask low speed tractability that can produce bucking when the clutch is locked out.

the 224/230 is not a bad cam. do some searching and you'll see several cam only 224 cars putting 390 or more to the rear wheels. If you literally have all the bolt-ons, you should be close. Don't fall into the trap of going bigger just to reach a magic number. Remember how you use your car 90% of the time. Think about all the time you spend at 30 mph or less and light throttle. A bigger cam will make you wait for the power (not as much with 4.10's) while a properly selected cam will be right there.

Patrick G's torque cam is the best example. Sure he has tweaked his car to the nth degree, but its all that the much larger cams are cracked up to be, plus a lot tamer around town. His Comp LSK 224/228 on 110 LSA has put 480+ to the rear wheels. A stock headed car with good tuning should get to 400 without the off-road pipes and electric water pump he used.

If you must go bigger, I'd suggest no more than 228/232, and even then steer away from the 110 LSA to keep overlap down. It is great for low and mid speed torque, but better with lower durations when streetable is part of the agenda.
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hammertime what do you think of the specs of the G5X3 i really have been looking at it but most of all the people i have talked to about my plans have told me to look at the T-Rex, MS3, MS4, G5X3, G5X4, Futral 13, Futral 14, Torquer 2, & Torquer 3. i also never drive my car below 2,000 rpms cause it will start jerking and i dont like to put it through all the stress. what do you think of the cams i listed above?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CaMaRo67RS355
hammertime what do you think of the specs of the G5X3 i really have been looking at it but most of all the people i have talked to about my plans have told me to look at the T-Rex, MS3, MS4, G5X3, G5X4, Futral 13, Futral 14, Torquer 2, & Torquer 3. i also never drive my car below 2,000 rpms cause it will start jerking and i dont like to put it through all the stress. what do you think of the cams i listed above?
You are covering quite a bit of range from 230* to 242* at .050 lift. I would recommend you narrow your focus by throwing out all of the cams listed, and get one designed to do what you want. We know you are talking about a daily driver, but what do you want to get from your cam swap? Most of the cams you listed really perform from 4000rpms or so up to 6500-7400rpm, not street territory. Selecting one of them for use primarily from 2000 - 5500 in a daily driver just doesn't add up. Your desired operating range only overlaps that range by 1500 rpm. Again, a properly selected cam can make power at 2000+ rpm, can maintain pretty acceptable fuel economy, and will still turn good numbers at the track and dyno because you've matched it to your setup.

If you are set on one of those you listed, I'd go with the smallest - the f13 @ 230/232, and put it on a 112 lsa. The high lift version should net you about 10 rwhp over the standard.
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out of all those cams i heard that the G5X3 would be a good choice for a daily but again these are opinions im hearing... whats its opperating range?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hammertime
If you must go bigger, I'd suggest no more than 228/232, and even then steer away from the 110 LSA to keep overlap down. It is great for low and mid speed torque, but better with lower durations when streetable is part of the agenda.
It is funny you mention this, because i was leaning towards a 228/234 LSK/XER on 111-112 LSA, but then Pat strongly suggested that I stick with the 110 LSA, so I think I am.
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Personally, I think 110 is the way to go with that cam, but my car isn't a daily driver. If you can really keep it above 2000 when you are driving, I'm sure it would be ok.

Honestly, with a few degrees less duration, 110 in a daily should be no problem. And as is usually the case, an excellent tune with a good cam will likely perform better than a pretty good tune with an excellent cam.
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g5x3 on a 114 would suit you best IMO.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 98Z28MASS
g5x3 on a 114 would suit you best IMO.
This sounds like a good guess to me also but threads like this are difficult to answer when everyone is throwing around terms like daily driver and streetable. These terms can be different for everyone and what would be helpful is for CaMaRo67RS355 to give us his definition of daily driver and streetable. Then we could better relate our personal experiences so lets have it CaMaRo67RS355!

Mark

BTW 233/239 600 605 112 +1 and with a great tune completely streetable to me in 03 vette MN6.
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