Dyno Results!
04-24-2002, 03:26 PM
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Dyno Results! Got the results!!!
How is this for a torquey bitch!
385RWHP and 437RWTQ!!!
Unlocked through the FULL EXHAUST, steel DS, 4.11 gears in the 12 bolt, heavy 17 inch rims and 275's!! (no cutout)
Remember this is through a Yank 4L70 trans with TP4400 converter which has dynoed 55-60RWHP less than a 6 speed on multiple occassions.
I am VERY happy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
A Full 43RWHP and WAY higher torque than my old S1 headed, B1 cammed combo unlocked that went 11.75@116mph with a spinning 1.67 sixty.
Specs are:
ARE 5.3L heads with 2.02 1.57 valves 11:1 compression
226/234 112LSA cam with 554/575 lift
Whisper lid
Mac headers with offroad and 3 inch catback
LS1 edit tuning
Now to see how it does on the track!
Special thanks to ARE for taking care of everything for me. I know it has been challenging dealing with the tranny probs, supplier probs and everything else! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 24, 2002, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
How is this for a torquey bitch!
385RWHP and 437RWTQ!!!
Unlocked through the FULL EXHAUST, steel DS, 4.11 gears in the 12 bolt, heavy 17 inch rims and 275's!! (no cutout)
Remember this is through a Yank 4L70 trans with TP4400 converter which has dynoed 55-60RWHP less than a 6 speed on multiple occassions.
I am VERY happy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
A Full 43RWHP and WAY higher torque than my old S1 headed, B1 cammed combo unlocked that went 11.75@116mph with a spinning 1.67 sixty.
Specs are:
ARE 5.3L heads with 2.02 1.57 valves 11:1 compression
226/234 112LSA cam with 554/575 lift
Whisper lid
Mac headers with offroad and 3 inch catback
LS1 edit tuning
Now to see how it does on the track!
Special thanks to ARE for taking care of everything for me. I know it has been challenging dealing with the tranny probs, supplier probs and everything else! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 24, 2002, 03:38 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
04-24-2002, 03:30 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! AWESOME numbers Chris <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> Talk about a torque monster! Good luck with it! <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
04-24-2002, 04:52 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! Great numbers Chris..... I'm pulling more peak RWHP than you, but for some reason I'm thinking you're going to be a WHOLE LOT quicker than me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Looking forward to seeing it run <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Looking forward to seeing it run <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
04-24-2002, 08:19 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! It may be more efficient compared to a TH400 but not to a 4L60E and certainly not a T56.
I have personally seen cars dyno 43xRWHP and switch to this tranny and dyno 375RWHP. Anyways, I dont put much stock in dyno numbers, I am, much more interested in ET and mph. Dyno is great as a tuning tool with the same car but ET and mph is where its at.
Cheers,
Chris
I have personally seen cars dyno 43xRWHP and switch to this tranny and dyno 375RWHP. Anyways, I dont put much stock in dyno numbers, I am, much more interested in ET and mph. Dyno is great as a tuning tool with the same car but ET and mph is where its at.
Cheers,
Chris
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04-24-2002, 11:07 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! Thats funny Chris my good friend tells me the 200r is used in Stock eliminater racing of LS1's and its the MOST efficient?
U might wanna find out if I'm right?
But I agree ET/MPH is the bottem line.
I seriously thining a 200R would be a grear next mod.Trans braked of course.Who do u like the Yank?
Warmy
U might wanna find out if I'm right?
But I agree ET/MPH is the bottem line.
I seriously thining a 200R would be a grear next mod.Trans braked of course.Who do u like the Yank?
Warmy
04-25-2002, 07:43 AM
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Re: Dyno Results! hmm I dont know, I just know what i have seen personally on the dyno with these tranny's over the M6.
Joel I would keep the 4L60 and just use the rebuilt one you have and not go with the 4L70. At your power level either trans will require a seasonal or every other seasonal freshening.
They are damn expensive to buy new as well.
I would invest the money in a solid shortblock and throw the TP4400 back in your existing config.
Cheers,
Chris
Joel I would keep the 4L60 and just use the rebuilt one you have and not go with the 4L70. At your power level either trans will require a seasonal or every other seasonal freshening.
They are damn expensive to buy new as well.
I would invest the money in a solid shortblock and throw the TP4400 back in your existing config.
Cheers,
Chris
04-25-2002, 01:36 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JS:
<strong>Thats funny Chris my good friend tells me the 200r is used in Stock eliminater racing of LS1's and its the MOST efficient?
U might wanna find out if I'm right?
But I agree ET/MPH is the bottem line.
I seriously thining a 200R would be a grear next mod.Trans braked of course.Who do u like the Yank?
Warmy</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dont get confused, the stock eliminator guys use the TH200 or the TH200C transmissions....not the o/d 200-4R
the TH200Cs are very very very light and hardly require any power to turn, but are very hard to build to keep them from blowing up...thats why only the eliminator guys use them because they can get away with just passes here and there
<strong>Thats funny Chris my good friend tells me the 200r is used in Stock eliminater racing of LS1's and its the MOST efficient?
U might wanna find out if I'm right?
But I agree ET/MPH is the bottem line.
I seriously thining a 200R would be a grear next mod.Trans braked of course.Who do u like the Yank?
Warmy</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dont get confused, the stock eliminator guys use the TH200 or the TH200C transmissions....not the o/d 200-4R
the TH200Cs are very very very light and hardly require any power to turn, but are very hard to build to keep them from blowing up...thats why only the eliminator guys use them because they can get away with just passes here and there
04-25-2002, 03:54 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! Thanks for the clarification, I knew the SE guys weren't using a GN tranny (200R). That made no sense whatsoever....
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 03:56 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
04-25-2002, 04:18 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! I didnt ask how much they picked up but the AF with stock programming was almost 15:1!!! After tuning it was a safe 12.4:1 with 27 degrees advance and no KR. (12.4:1 will show just under 13:1 on the street)
The old combo with B1 cam and S1 blower ported heads made 342RWHP unlocked with a spike to 365 locked (vs over 400RWHP with the six speed in the car).
That is where I referenced the 43RWHP difference comparing the old B1/S1 to the new 226/234/5.3L headed combo (342 vs 385).
I would imagine tuning picked me up right around ~25RWHP with the AF being that lean.
Car idles PERFECTLY and drivability is awesome. Also installed a shiftlight with 6400rpm pills and 28x10 inch slicks on stock rims.
Just need to make sure everything is clearanced with the slicks, take some gentle miles on the tranny and then go to the strip. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I honestly think the car could hit mid 11's easily with full interior minus jack and spare on skinnies with stock rear wheels. (Over 3500 pounds raceweight)
That is my goal and then I'll look at K-Member, A-Arms, lighter rims and 26 inch slicks, slight weight reduction.
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
The old combo with B1 cam and S1 blower ported heads made 342RWHP unlocked with a spike to 365 locked (vs over 400RWHP with the six speed in the car).
That is where I referenced the 43RWHP difference comparing the old B1/S1 to the new 226/234/5.3L headed combo (342 vs 385).
I would imagine tuning picked me up right around ~25RWHP with the AF being that lean.
Car idles PERFECTLY and drivability is awesome. Also installed a shiftlight with 6400rpm pills and 28x10 inch slicks on stock rims.
Just need to make sure everything is clearanced with the slicks, take some gentle miles on the tranny and then go to the strip. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I honestly think the car could hit mid 11's easily with full interior minus jack and spare on skinnies with stock rear wheels. (Over 3500 pounds raceweight)
That is my goal and then I'll look at K-Member, A-Arms, lighter rims and 26 inch slicks, slight weight reduction.
Cheers,
Chris
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 04:22 PM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
04-25-2002, 11:06 PM
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Re: Dyno Results! Wow I didnt know about the 200C
See u learn things everyday.
I bet my buddy meant the C trans and I was to stupid to realize this is NOT a GN trans.Makes sense now.
Chris I might try a TP4600 and see what the car does?It looks like my VIG isnt cutting it.
Its too tight and its dropping the shift points 1400 rpm between shifts.I need a verter that stay around 1000 to 1200 max after each gear.I guess I can have the VIG stalled for free for one time and see the results.It also looks like i was locking the verter up to early.I think 6100 is gonna be the sweet spot.
JS
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
See u learn things everyday.
I bet my buddy meant the C trans and I was to stupid to realize this is NOT a GN trans.Makes sense now.
Chris I might try a TP4600 and see what the car does?It looks like my VIG isnt cutting it.
Its too tight and its dropping the shift points 1400 rpm between shifts.I need a verter that stay around 1000 to 1200 max after each gear.I guess I can have the VIG stalled for free for one time and see the results.It also looks like i was locking the verter up to early.I think 6100 is gonna be the sweet spot.
JS
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 11:08 PM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
04-26-2002, 08:59 AM
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Re: Dyno Results! JS,
A lot of the guys have found the UT4600 converters too loose, even high revving HCI guys. I would consider throwing in your TP4400 for a couple of passes and see how it works. If it does work well you can leave it in or consider upping the stall on the vig.
I think RH lost some mph and a couple of tenths going too loose with the converter.
cheers,
Chris
A lot of the guys have found the UT4600 converters too loose, even high revving HCI guys. I would consider throwing in your TP4400 for a couple of passes and see how it works. If it does work well you can leave it in or consider upping the stall on the vig.
I think RH lost some mph and a couple of tenths going too loose with the converter.
cheers,
Chris