I guess if you look on the bright tside of things, you can get a motor now that will actually put out the numbers you hope for and deserved, throwing all the money at that other dud of an engine.

Solid roller in the future....?

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by xssive:
<strong>Solid roller in the future....?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It suuuuuuuuuuure is tempting <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

we'll see ;-)

\chrisn

 

How about a turbo solid roller 327ci LS1? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

I'm tellin you Visc, its all because you put Corey's springs on the car...corey's got bad mojo.

 

Damn!!! That hurts.. I feel you.. I am having a shortblock being built right now. Money seems to be the only thing I am good at making.. Engines are not my specialty. I should have left the car alone when it was running fine.. The bad thing is I cant stop. I am building the shortblock to take future forced induction, but this time I am playing it safe.. I am going to run safe boost until more reliable inventions come out to run more boost.. Staying below 600rwhp should be safe for a forged 346ci shortblock..

 

Damn Chris!! I hope you can salvage some of the motor. Time for a 422ci. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Can you plz give us details on Oil used, any past Oil Pressure issues, PCV changes?

Thx! Mine spun a rod bearing and put it thru the block on a stock Oil Pump failure.
Ohh.. Remember to clean out the intake. Had a BUNCH of metal & sludge up in there too..

<small>[ April 28, 2002, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: MelloYellow ]</small>

 

Duuuuuuuude, you have the worst luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Build your next setup right, and get a warranty with it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Im sure your internal engine gremlins will go on strike if MTI has a 2 yr / 24K mile warranty on their motor <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

jmX: OH **** ! I totally forgot. Now we know exactly what happened. I was such an *IDIOT* to put Corey's springs on the car. Oh well. :-/

Vince: Bad timing for me...I was *trying* to start saving for a nice pad. Oh well.

Jason: Well, I dont think Ill do the 422 riiiight away, but Im definitely looking at an all-bore big ci motor. That way with a solid roller I can really spin it high. Im not totally sworn off solid rollers yet ;-)

MellowY: Mobile 1, Green label, I dont remember its actual weight/viscosity. Changed in the last 1000 miles. I dont know if the oil pressure did die though, although I would have thought it would set a "Check Guages" light or something. This motor has seen *alot* of 6000+ rpm recently.

TransZ: I'll be givin Jeff a call tomorrow ;-) MTI earned my business on this motor. Now I just have to wait, I suspect, as they are sorta backed up. Also, I dont know if they warantee a motor they dont install in the car. Im in Oregon now :-/

* Visceral Lables a ceramic pig with a slot in it "Engine".

\chrisn

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MelloYellow:
<strong> Mine spun a rod bearing and put it thru the block on a stock Oil Pump failure.
Ohh.. Remember to clean out the intake. Had a BUNCH of metal & sludge up in there too..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hahaha... My Intake manifold was on its nose outside for about an hour draining about 2 full cups of oil and metal bits :-/

Now its covered in Simple Green.

AMazing where chunks of metal got. It really was like someone let a grenade off under the car. I remember my first thought being "The hood is OK..."

\chrisn

 

Hood was up when mine went. (Long story) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> and got to see the oil splash upwards & down. Not to mention a big puff of smoke!

I was real surprised nothing made it past the intake and into the air filter. It's a closed kinda donaldson one.. At least that was still clean. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

 

FWIW, I debated the new Katech LS1 Rod Bolts on the new engine (not forged). But my mech was worried about the rods shifting and needing to be resized to be done properly, so he didn't want to do it and have a rod shift or be even slightly off..

Katech felt you could change them with just the caps off, but.. dunno...

Any chance the oil went a bit low? Y'all need bigger pans..

 

I had just run a 12.023 @ 117 with a 1.90 60',
I so I figured out a few things and proceeded to run a nice 1.78 60'. I was well on my way to a nice 11 sec timeslip when part ways through 3rd, the rotating assembly tried very hard to leave the car. This is running NA (always have) and a 6700 rpm redline.

3 large holes in the engine and block, and the track cleanup guys actually handed me a rod bearing that was still hot.

http://www.nolke.com/syty/nextphase/crunch/

Lots of pics in there after I took the heads off.
Heads look recoverable, but nothing in the bottom end is worth more than scrap metal now. Even the Hammer Cam got chewed up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

Im pretty sure it was a set of rod bolts that failed, and the rod took out several other rods, and they all together started to punch holes in things and fly out.
And NO, I didnt stay in it once I heard a noise ;-).

I'll be calling MTI about their super sweet motors Monday. :-/

\chrisn

Teaser photo:
<img src="http://www.nolke.com/syty/nextphase/crunch/5small.jpg" alt="" />

 

Wow, that looks nasty, how many miles were on the motor?

 

Thats an expensive way to get some new paperweights <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

How many miles were on it since it was last in the shop?

J.

 

That sucks Chris. All the time your car spent at MTI, they better have something to say about getting you a new motor...

 

We had put about 600 miles on it since it was at MTI.

The bottom end has 22k miles since it came new with the car.

Ive beat on this engine alot, so its not without cause, but Im surprised it let go *that* violently, that easily.

Yeah...Ive got some neat, very expensive paperweight. But thats racing ;-)

\chrisn

 

duuuuude that sucks! looks a little worse than what my buddy did to his motor and that was BAD...good luck with everything man i feel your pain!

 

we might be able to find out when we take it apart and look at other bits.

Otherwise, I had no other signs. :-/

\chrisn

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by xssive:
<strong>That sucks Chris. All the time your car spent at MTI, they better have something to say about getting you a new motor...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well, they never touched the bottom end. It was entirely stock. In fact, MTI spent a whole hell of alot of time fixing another vendors issues for hardly more than a song. Im going to talk to MTI about a bottom end because they are some of the only folks around that I can totally trust to not give me something that will have issues.

\chrisn

 

Visceral,
Sorry to see that happen man, I know it's gotta suck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> . Well , the silver lining is that there is bigger and better things to come for your program. BTW, what make exhaust valves were you running? they look quite different from what I use from Ferrea.
Better luck to you!
Joe.