Lets talk about oil
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From: Chester, VA.
Re: Lets talk about oil What weight do you run?
Amsoil 5W-30
What climate are you in?
Central VA (Cold Winters, Hot Summers)
How often do you change it?
5000-7500 miles
Do you use a power adder?
NO
What filter are you using?
STD Size Amsoil
I have my oil sampled and processed for TBN and metals and have been told 7500 miles is no problem. Amsoil Rocks!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Amsoil 5W-30
What climate are you in?
Central VA (Cold Winters, Hot Summers)
How often do you change it?
5000-7500 miles
Do you use a power adder?
NO
What filter are you using?
STD Size Amsoil
I have my oil sampled and processed for TBN and metals and have been told 7500 miles is no problem. Amsoil Rocks!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Re: Lets talk about oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Crazyquik:
<strong> What weight do you run? What climate are you in? How often do you change it? (I think TTR changes every 15 passes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> ) Do you use a power adder?
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart?)
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Royal Purple Multi Vis/ 10w30/ mostly summer heat and humidity, occasional winter driving/ 2800-3000 miles/ currently adding N20 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> / used to use the AC Delco gold filters, now just regular AC Delco filter
<strong> What weight do you run? What climate are you in? How often do you change it? (I think TTR changes every 15 passes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> ) Do you use a power adder?
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart?)
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Royal Purple Multi Vis/ 10w30/ mostly summer heat and humidity, occasional winter driving/ 2800-3000 miles/ currently adding N20 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> / used to use the AC Delco gold filters, now just regular AC Delco filter
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Re: Lets talk about oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Silver99Z:
<strong>Thinking of switching to Amsoil. Any comments about that oil?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, good stuff. They don't have the exposure that Mobil does, but that's b/c they don't have the media budget that mobil does. They've been around longer than anybody else and had the first API rated synthtics.
I run 0-30 in my car year round, 5-30 in the wife's tahoe (5.3). Involved with a circle track team that switched over to AMSOIL a couple seasons ago and their over heating problems went away immediatly and they went from changing oil after every race to only changing a couple times a seaon based on analysis results.
<small>[ April 29, 2002, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Chris Spiess ]</small>
<strong>Thinking of switching to Amsoil. Any comments about that oil?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, good stuff. They don't have the exposure that Mobil does, but that's b/c they don't have the media budget that mobil does. They've been around longer than anybody else and had the first API rated synthtics.
I run 0-30 in my car year round, 5-30 in the wife's tahoe (5.3). Involved with a circle track team that switched over to AMSOIL a couple seasons ago and their over heating problems went away immediatly and they went from changing oil after every race to only changing a couple times a seaon based on analysis results.
<small>[ April 29, 2002, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: Chris Spiess ]</small>
Re: Lets talk about oil changed oil @ 600 miles with castrol GTX, used penske filter (all others were sold out)
changing again at 1800 with GTX (i bought a case) and ac delco filter
Next change will use royal purple with M1 filter.
Should i switch over to 10w for the summer? Why would gm reccomend 5w for the lt1 & ls1's if it wasnt the oil of choice? How much hp are we talking about between the two? And if you abuse your oil (race it alot) is the 10 weight better in the long run? Or is racing with the 5 okay?
changing again at 1800 with GTX (i bought a case) and ac delco filter
Next change will use royal purple with M1 filter.
Should i switch over to 10w for the summer? Why would gm reccomend 5w for the lt1 & ls1's if it wasnt the oil of choice? How much hp are we talking about between the two? And if you abuse your oil (race it alot) is the 10 weight better in the long run? Or is racing with the 5 okay?
Re: Lets talk about oil 10w-30
Mobile 1 Synthetic
Mobile 1 Filter (PN 107)
I change it often enough to remember the Filter part number <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> (whenever I get bored ~2500-3000)
Just recently switched to Mobile 1 from Valvoline. Mobile 1 has a better bottle for pouring and was cheaper.
I'd rather spend the couple extra bucks on synthetic than find out that I wasn't wasting my money. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
Mobile 1 Synthetic
Mobile 1 Filter (PN 107)
I change it often enough to remember the Filter part number <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> (whenever I get bored ~2500-3000)
Just recently switched to Mobile 1 from Valvoline. Mobile 1 has a better bottle for pouring and was cheaper.
I'd rather spend the couple extra bucks on synthetic than find out that I wasn't wasting my money. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" />
Re: Lets talk about oil I don't know Jonathan. Is going to a thicker oil recommended when spraying?
I like the avatar too! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I like the avatar too! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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From: Lexington, SC
Re: Lets talk about oil What weight do you run? Mobil 1 Tri-Synth 10w-30
What climate are you in? Warm/Hot/Humid SC
How often do you change it? Every 5000 miles (oil and filter)
Do you use a power adder? Nope
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? stock motor, but use 6 quarts
What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart)? AC-Delco PF-58
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: J'sRamAir ]</small>
What climate are you in? Warm/Hot/Humid SC
How often do you change it? Every 5000 miles (oil and filter)
Do you use a power adder? Nope
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? stock motor, but use 6 quarts
What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart)? AC-Delco PF-58
<small>[ April 30, 2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: J'sRamAir ]</small>
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Re: Lets talk about oil I've been a faithful Mobil 1 user for a many years now (started using it as far back as 1988!) but recently I've been getting more and more info showing that it's not as good as it used to be. A recent oil analysis report from someone on the f-body list showed their Valvoline synthetic held up much better than Mobil 1, even though they went twice as long on the Valvoline. And Valvoline's SL rated 10w30 has a flash point of 482F, versus new SL rated Mobil 1 which is 455F (down from 478F for the SJ rated Mobil 1) So it appears Mobil 1 is indeed getting worse now.
Time for the Patman to switch to Valvoline!
Time for the Patman to switch to Valvoline!
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Re: Lets talk about oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patman:
<strong>I've been a faithful Mobil 1 user for a many years now (started using it as far back as 1988!) but recently I've been getting more and more info showing that it's not as good as it used to be. A recent oil analysis report from someone on the f-body list showed their Valvoline synthetic held up much better than Mobil 1, even though they went twice as long on the Valvoline. And Valvoline's SL rated 10w30 has a flash point of 482F, versus new SL rated Mobil 1 which is 455F (down from 478F for the SJ rated Mobil 1) So it appears Mobil 1 is indeed getting worse now.
Time for the Patman to switch to Valvoline!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Would you please post a link to this. I would certainly be interested in those testing results.
Thanks!
<strong>I've been a faithful Mobil 1 user for a many years now (started using it as far back as 1988!) but recently I've been getting more and more info showing that it's not as good as it used to be. A recent oil analysis report from someone on the f-body list showed their Valvoline synthetic held up much better than Mobil 1, even though they went twice as long on the Valvoline. And Valvoline's SL rated 10w30 has a flash point of 482F, versus new SL rated Mobil 1 which is 455F (down from 478F for the SJ rated Mobil 1) So it appears Mobil 1 is indeed getting worse now.
Time for the Patman to switch to Valvoline!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Would you please post a link to this. I would certainly be interested in those testing results.
Thanks!
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From: Virginia
Re: Lets talk about oil What weight do you run? Mobil 1 Tri-Synth 5w-30, now considering going to 10w-30
What climate are you in? Warm "Southern VA"
How often do you change it? Every 3000 miles, oil & filter. But now I'm considering 5000 miles like some others have listed.
Do you use a power adder? Nope
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? stock motor 5.5 qts
What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart)? 1/2 quart Mobil-1
What climate are you in? Warm "Southern VA"
How often do you change it? Every 3000 miles, oil & filter. But now I'm considering 5000 miles like some others have listed.
Do you use a power adder? Nope
If you have a built motor, how many quarts do you use? stock motor 5.5 qts
What filter are you using (1/2 quart or full quart)? 1/2 quart Mobil-1
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Re: Lets talk about oil Here is the link for the archives of the 4th gen mailing list, where you can find that email about the oil analysis results of Valvoline vs Mobil 1:
http://lists.f-body.org/pipermail/fo...ay/thread.html
<small>[ May 03, 2002, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: Patman ]</small>
http://lists.f-body.org/pipermail/fo...ay/thread.html
<small>[ May 03, 2002, 08:55 AM: Message edited by: Patman ]</small>
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Re: Lets talk about oil Weight: started with 5w30 M1 when the car was new. Went to dino 10w40 when I did heads/cam and switched to RP 5w30 last change. Will probably go with RP 10W40 when next change.
Climate: Chicago, hot in summer, cold in winter but I don't drive it much in the winter anymore.
Change interval: Usually 2500-3000 miles. I'll change the RP soon (had it about 3 months now) and see how it looks. I can probably get 5000 out of it though.
No power adder, no plans for one either.
I've been running 6 qts for about 2 years.
I use the M1-107 filter.
Since I did heads/cam I haven't noticed hardly any consumption.
Climate: Chicago, hot in summer, cold in winter but I don't drive it much in the winter anymore.
Change interval: Usually 2500-3000 miles. I'll change the RP soon (had it about 3 months now) and see how it looks. I can probably get 5000 out of it though.
No power adder, no plans for one either.
I've been running 6 qts for about 2 years.
I use the M1-107 filter.
Since I did heads/cam I haven't noticed hardly any consumption.
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From: Mississauga, Ontario
Re: Lets talk about oil How many of you get your oil analyzed? I'd do it but there aren't any places up here that do it (at least not for anything other than large companies) and it's too expensive to send it over the border. The best way to figure out which oils are good are to get them analyzed to see how they are holding up. It'll also give you a good idea if you're changing your oil at the correct interval or not. If an oil analysis told you that your 3000 mile oil was still 99% as good as new, wouldn't you want to extend your intervals?
Re: Lets talk about oil Patman - I'm most likely going to send off my Royal Purple when I change it again. I would be interested to see how it compares.
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Re: Lets talk about oil I don't know if Blackstone labs will do analysis for Canadian customers but I'm gonna find out, as when I get home I'm gonna email them for their oil analysis kit.
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Re: Lets talk about oil Mobil 1 Synthetic
Mobil 1 M206
20w50= 7 qts
Need 20w50 cause the turbo thin it out to much for my liking and also gets the oil press higher.
Mobil 1 M206
20w50= 7 qts
Need 20w50 cause the turbo thin it out to much for my liking and also gets the oil press higher.
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Re: Lets talk about oil Mobil 1 5W30 for the first 2 oil changes...was eating a ton of oil. Switched to 10w30 and the oil consumption slowed down...got new piston rings and it fixed the problem.
I still run 10W-30 Mobil 1.
Using 5.5 qts.
Change it every 3000 miles
Climate is the oven (desert southwest)...my car sees many days above 110 degrees...DAMN BLACK PAINT AND BLACK INTERIOR!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Using the K&N hi performance filter.
I still run 10W-30 Mobil 1.
Using 5.5 qts.
Change it every 3000 miles
Climate is the oven (desert southwest)...my car sees many days above 110 degrees...DAMN BLACK PAINT AND BLACK INTERIOR!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Using the K&N hi performance filter.
