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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 03:05 PM
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Default Head bolts Vs. Studs
Ive used search and came up with nothing but for sale ads.

My car is head lifting right now and i want to know if the arp bolts will hold or if i need to use the studs instead. The main reason i ask because is know the studs cannot be used or put in if the motor is in the car. Im not apposed to this but what would you guys reccomend?

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Use studs, they are way better and you can pull the heads when they are in the car. The best part is you clean the bolt holes once and you never have to do it again, not matter how many times you pull the heads.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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are they an undercut stud? or are the just a normal one? I just want to make sure i do this right.
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i think theyre normal.
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Thanx man anyone else know about this stud setup?
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Head studs can be put in with the motor in the car.
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Originally Posted by Kuhnstyle86
Ive used search and came up with nothing but for sale ads.

My car is head lifting right now and i want to know if the arp bolts will hold or if i need to use the studs instead. The main reason i ask because is know the studs cannot be used or put in if the motor is in the car. Im not apposed to this but what would you guys reccomend?

Thanks in advance

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bolts will work, studs are better. heads go on first, then head studs go on. not the proper way to do it, but it works.
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Head studs, then Heads. I don't even think the head studs will go through the head that way. You defenitly do not have the room the put the studs in through the heads if they are in place under the cowl.
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Kind of been there done that before.

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Originally Posted by davered00ss
Kind of been there done that before.


so your saying that if i pull the heads and put the studs in the heads will be able to go on? Like they will clear the cowl?
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Originally Posted by davered00ss
Head studs, then Heads. I don't even think the head studs will go through the head that way. You defenitly do not have the room the put the studs in through the heads if they are in place under the cowl.
your motor was out of the car, when you put the head studs in, then put the heads on right? that's news to me, if you can install head studs first, then put the heads on if the motors already in the car. comparing the longest arp head bolt, to the longest arp stud, the studs are .250 longer, and should be able to install them, tight but able.
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I pulled my heads of 10-15 times and never romoved a stud to do so. Studs stay in place...in the block...head slide over the studs.

To me it was so much easier than bolts.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Use studs, they are way better and you can pull the heads when they are in the car. The best part is you clean the bolt holes once and you never have to do it again, not matter how many times you pull the heads.
I agree. There's plenty of room to do it in the car



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I agree. There's plenty of room to do it in the car



thanks for the pics, i always thought it was to damn tight. learn something new everyday i guess.
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THANK YOU LS1Tech another article that saved me from making a poor choice
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Motor was in the car before we put the heads studs and heads on the car as you can see in the pic engine with no head studs in it.
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Same here. Studs in first. It's tight but it works:

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you could just drive it into a firework stand
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Studs FTW
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