thanks for your input though.
hotcam vs cutsom spec question
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hotcam vs cutsom spec question Which cam would make more power out of these to cams. Would it even be a significant difference?
hotcam 217/227 525/525 112
CC custom 218/218 563 114
Thanks for the input.
Both would be paired with hooker lt's
hotcam 217/227 525/525 112
CC custom 218/218 563 114
Thanks for the input.
Both would be paired with hooker lt's
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question i like the hot cam only because it comes in a kit were you get new springsect and you dont need to change you lifters, i know some ppl who used it and got a little more then 400 hp at the flywheel, and 380rwhp, thats of course with headers and the mods you have. i dont need my car to fast mid to low 12 s sound fine for me right now and i think the GM hotcam is only around 400 bone for the whole kit cheap good performance. i i like it and that cam is bigger then the Z06 cam.
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question With stock heads the hot cam is tough to beat for the bang for the buck. My 99SS runs 12.20s in bad air and faster with good weather. No weight reduction and fat tires. With hogged out heads more lift is called for, and stouter springs. But for something you can go up to the grocery for a 12 pack with the air conditioner running the hot cam works well. No computer tuning and no SES lights. I put mine in myself in the garage and it wasn't that bad to install. You can put all the camshaft in you want to but, the heads will only flow so much air. The hot cam was made for stock heads.
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2kredCSS:
<strong>Which cam would make more power out of these to cams. Would it even be a significant difference?
hotcam 217/227 525/525 112
CC custom 218/218 563 114
Thanks for the input.
Both would be paired with hooker lt's</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why not just get a custom cam from comp?You canget whatever you like <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> he he he.
<strong>Which cam would make more power out of these to cams. Would it even be a significant difference?
hotcam 217/227 525/525 112
CC custom 218/218 563 114
Thanks for the input.
Both would be paired with hooker lt's</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why not just get a custom cam from comp?You canget whatever you like <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> he he he.
Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question just my 02.cents.the hotcam makes good power for what its worth plus comes in a kit.have mine with stock ported heads with no tuning or programming.changing setup soon. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by tbone4232:
<strong>sorry T/A do you have headers on that system?you no with no cats headers and a 3'' exoust you will pump about 30 - 35 hp more, fyi</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL - this dude is a genius isnt he? hahhaha
yea the hotcam is a decent cam but if you are looking for 380RWHP or more (esp with good headwork) go with a custom cam. my results are in the sig with stock programing. that will change this coming week.
<strong>sorry T/A do you have headers on that system?you no with no cats headers and a 3'' exoust you will pump about 30 - 35 hp more, fyi</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">LOL - this dude is a genius isnt he? hahhaha
yea the hotcam is a decent cam but if you are looking for 380RWHP or more (esp with good headwork) go with a custom cam. my results are in the sig with stock programing. that will change this coming week.
Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question That was a better choice IMO. It will idle much much better than the hotcam. The hotcam has too much exhaust duration vs. intake duration. Just get 918 springs and you will be all set.
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question FYI,,,,,370-380 is possible with the hot cam and some open headers(cutout) and the rest of the mods that people have,i know a guy who dyno at 389rwhp but he hat a home ported TB and pulleys,so i figure 370-380 with the right exoust
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question tbone: Not everyone who has a Hotcam will make 389rwhp. T/A_2001 did have headers...longtubes at that and only made 351/364. In order to get into the high 300s you need to have all the other bolt-ons. Some cars even with those bolt-ons just ain't gonna make it that high...mine sure wouldn't. Did your friend have any headwork done? Not saying it can't be done. Heck, wasn't it Visceral who got around 400rwhp with the Hotcam on stock heads? FYI, you don't have to change your lifters with much more aggressive cams either (TR 230/224, C1, etc..).
Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question here I am..."king of the hotcam" ;-) j/k
The hotcam was made to make great power on stock heads, and it does alright. But in my opinion, there are far better cams out there right now. The hotcam has too many disadvantages for the power it makes. The idle is very rough, even on a M6, and the surging, while not horrible, is present. It does have the advantage of being easy on the valvetrain though. I dont believe you are ever going to break a spring with a hotcam.
I love the MTI T1 cam for great power without too much valvetrain noise... I cant think of a reason not to use it. You can use the Hammer cam as well if you dont mind valvetrain noise and are willing to put some good springs in there. THunder Racing also makes a gread 224 cam.
\chrisn
The hotcam was made to make great power on stock heads, and it does alright. But in my opinion, there are far better cams out there right now. The hotcam has too many disadvantages for the power it makes. The idle is very rough, even on a M6, and the surging, while not horrible, is present. It does have the advantage of being easy on the valvetrain though. I dont believe you are ever going to break a spring with a hotcam.
I love the MTI T1 cam for great power without too much valvetrain noise... I cant think of a reason not to use it. You can use the Hammer cam as well if you dont mind valvetrain noise and are willing to put some good springs in there. THunder Racing also makes a gread 224 cam.
\chrisn
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Re: hotcam vs cutsom spec question ------- UPDATE -------
Ok I pulled on the dyno tonight with the CC cam.
I gained 24 hp from just the cam putting me at 363 rwhp corrected! nice #'s if ya ask me. hoping with lt's and intake I break 380 mark.
Ok I pulled on the dyno tonight with the CC cam.
I gained 24 hp from just the cam putting me at 363 rwhp corrected! nice #'s if ya ask me. hoping with lt's and intake I break 380 mark.