holy shit... dodged a BIG bullet...
holy ****... dodged a BIG bullet... well.. i knew they were on their way out, just hadnt gotten around to changing them yet. thank god i pulled the valve cover off last night to check everything when i was looking to reseal my rocker bolts.... 
all i can say is good ******* lord am i lucky.. i just ran 8 dyno passes on spray and going to 7k on this valve... and it didnt drop... thank god... thank you god!!
this is what the rest look like.. just the one thats bad bad
all i can say is good ******* lord am i lucky.. i just ran 8 dyno passes on spray and going to 7k on this valve... and it didnt drop... thank god... thank you god!!
this is what the rest look like.. just the one thats bad bad
btw, these are the old patriot valves.. im ordering new Ferrea's from gunnar today.
does anybody know if the retainers for my comp 921's are the same as a stock retainer/lock?? if not where in the hell do i get 1 freakin springs worth of locks and a retainer?
does anybody know if the retainers for my comp 921's are the same as a stock retainer/lock?? if not where in the hell do i get 1 freakin springs worth of locks and a retainer?
The retainers that come with a 921 spring kit from Comp Cams use stock GM locks (keepers) ..you can get a single retainer, spring, or spring seat from Comp...Give Comp Cams a call .. your local GM dealer should have the locks in stock..50 cents a piece.. 
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Verdad Gallardo lmao you guys crack me up... they are the old style patriot valves they had the huge recall on... gunnar is taking care of me as far as some killer pricing on new ferrea's those guys have their stuff together and customer service is amazing!
what happened is the valve is made out of shitty material... it started to "mushroom" a while ago (about 1500 miles ago) and i didnt have the time or money to fix it. so i just havent really drivin the car much and was just waiting for some down time and cash flow to fix it.. well checked stuff out and saw that yesterday.
the rocker has completely worn the tip off the valve. it has also begun wearing into the retainer and into the lock. if it would have worn just a TINY bit more it would have broken the lip off the valve and that bitch would have sucked a valve and things would have gotten MESSY..
what happened is the valve is made out of shitty material... it started to "mushroom" a while ago (about 1500 miles ago) and i didnt have the time or money to fix it. so i just havent really drivin the car much and was just waiting for some down time and cash flow to fix it.. well checked stuff out and saw that yesterday.
the rocker has completely worn the tip off the valve. it has also begun wearing into the retainer and into the lock. if it would have worn just a TINY bit more it would have broken the lip off the valve and that bitch would have sucked a valve and things would have gotten MESSY..
Originally Posted by Justin99TA
I had the same issue. My heads are at Patriot right now. I had two valves like that and 4 guides fail. Gunnar is taking care of mine as well.
4 guides fail??... dont wanna hear that... lol what happened with the guides? i REALLY dont wanna have to deal with something like that
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I have no idea. My heads are at Patriot. I took them to work to ship them and the mechanic said told me 4 of the exhaust guides failed. I spoke to Gunnar to weeks ago and they are replacing all of the valves and guides. He is also ccing them and milling them some more for me. As for the amount of power they make I have been pleased. I have a friend with the exact same mods as me (even the cam) only he has AFR 205s and a lighter car. I am consitantly .03 and 2mph quicker. I pull him every time from a roll or a dig. Let the bashing begain
Originally Posted by Justin99TA
I have no idea. My heads are at Patriot. I took them to work to ship them and the mechanic said told me 4 of the exhaust guides failed. I spoke to Gunnar to weeks ago and they are replacing all of the valves and guides. He is also ccing them and milling them some more for me. As for the amount of power they make I have been pleased. I have a friend with the exact same mods as me (even the cam) only he has AFR 205s and a lighter car. I am consitantly .03 and 2mph quicker. I pull him every time from a roll or a dig. Let the bashing begain
lol good to hear dude!! and yeah, i see these AFR 225 402 LS2 threads with 520 RWHP with ALL they free mods and EWP and every bolt on imaginable... and think... now.. here i am spending 1000 on heads and springs and cam instead of 3k and im only making a little less power?? and very comparable power if i do all the other bolt ons??
poor saps who spent 3k on heads have got to hate that 
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
lol good to hear dude!! and yeah, i see these AFR 225 402 LS2 threads with 520 RWHP with ALL they free mods and EWP and every bolt on imaginable... and think... now.. here i am spending 1000 on heads and springs and cam instead of 3k and im only making a little less power?? and very comparable power if i do all the other bolt ons?? poor saps who spent 3k on heads have got to hate that
poor saps who spent 3k on heads have got to hate that
Originally Posted by brad8266
yeah but youre only talking peak numbers, did you look at under curve power in those other setups?
Originally Posted by fastest94v6
wait so you change springs out EVERY 7K MILES!!! HOLY ****!
huh? lol where did i say that
edit... nevermind.. no i mean i spin the bitch to 7k RPM not replace the springs
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Originally Posted by brad8266
yeah but youre only talking peak numbers, did you look at under curve power in those other setups?
Originally Posted by LostCauseZ06
did you look at under the curve power on my graph? lol it was very comparable to the AFR numbers.. it was actualyl top end where they take off.. they hold strong over 6k where mine start to fall off... when in all actuality im betting thats intake manifold issues and not heads.