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Old 02-07-2007, 10:41 PM
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Right now the car has 472RWHP on a stock engine w/ blower 7 1/2 PSI. Looking into 600RWHP, for the next step.
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Whats good about Trick Flow over AFR everybody said AFR is the best, I know its expenssive but its emission legal
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The only people who say AFR's are the best are the people that have them.

The TFS heads have produce better numbers from what I have seen.

There is a member here that produced 498rwhp N/A on a stock bottom end with TFS heads. Do a search, you will see.
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600 rwhp is cake , Buy a 347 or 383 shortblock and pulley the **** till you max the blower

The cams that Tony spec'd is all you need , you dont need a huge cam . Also all you need is MAC short tube headers . Let the Procharger make the power , strength'n your foundation to hold that power .

This combo is tried and true

224/228 114 lsa for smog go 115- 116 lsa
AFR 205cc


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That vette is nasty.

Don't get me wrong here guys, AFR's are great, TFS are good too. If anything, minimal difference between the two. To be honest, the 1st set of aluminum heads I EVER bought were TFS 23 degree Kenny Duttweiler series. I threw them on a fairly mild 355 in my 91' camaro with a nice combo and have just loved them. So I guess you could say I have a thing for TFS heads.

I agree with Tony as far as your build goes. But if you do have the cash, go 402 cubes over 383 dude, you'll love it. My buddy has an 00' SS: 402, West Coast heads, 224/228 cam, Kooks longtubes, Magnaflow Cat-back = 470rwhp thru the exhaust. It pulls my buddies 98 vette: same West Coast heads 224/224 cam/ lt's etc. so hard it unreal. those extra cubes just give you that much more potential.

I definately think that the 224/228 cam on a 115 lsa would be your best bet now that I have pondered it for a while.

Good luck man.

Just remember, if you don't hit 600rwhp, high 500's isn't to shabby either!!!!lol!
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Guys - I hyperlinked over here from Corvette Forums & think this is an outstanding site ( especially from a technical standpoint! )
I was looking to see what the "perceived" max power a stock LS6 w/stock internals could handle before needing to go forged & if I understand things, 600 rwhp seems to be it? I'm purchasing an '01 Z06 w/a MagnaCharger & it already dynos 487 rwhp so I was looking for a little extra via nitrous ( since the M112 is maxed out airflow-wise ).
Thanks for the help ( sorry if this is a hijack ) but the search feature led me here. I'll be back for more advice!!

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Originally Posted by Mean Gene55
Guys - I hyperlinked over here from Corvette Forums & think this is an outstanding site ( especially from a technical standpoint! )
I was looking to see what the "perceived" max power a stock LS6 w/stock internals could handle before needing to go forged & if I understand things, 600 rwhp seems to be it? I'm purchasing an '01 Z06 w/a MagnaCharger & it already dynos 487 rwhp so I was looking for a little extra via nitrous ( since the M112 is maxed out airflow-wise ).
Thanks for the help ( sorry if this is a hijack ) but the search feature led me here. I'll be back for more advice!!

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I wouldnt spray a magnacharged ls6 already, way to much heat. Stock internals wont last imho.

I would spray it IF I had the cash to build a motor.
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Originally Posted by SPDEMON
The only people who say AFR's are the best are the people that have them.

The TFS heads have produce better numbers from what I have seen.

There is a member here that produced 498rwhp N/A on a stock bottom end with TFS heads. Do a search, you will see.
Yea that was me.
Trickflow heads are kickin ***!! Sorry but they really are making #s and Ive seen some results with my eyes.
The people I deal with only use whats best whether it is afr, etp, and now trickflow. All 3 are great heads dont get me wrong, but not equal.
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Originally Posted by cws T/A
600 rwhp is cake , Buy a 347 or 383 shortblock and pulley the **** till you max the blower

The cams that Tony spec'd is all you need , you dont need a huge cam . Also all you need is MAC short tube headers . Let the Procharger make the power , strength'n your foundation to hold that power .

This combo is tried and true

224/228 114 lsa for smog go 115- 116 lsa
AFR 205cc


= http://video.ls1tech.com/category/Co...753bcb977f.htm
that makes me curious. that car has literally the same cam mine has, but I have P&P LS6 heads and only a 346. I wonder what my car will be pushing if I forge the bottom & add a procharger & small pulley??
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Ok guys I will take your word, I will go for 346ci stock block w/ forged internals. And 224/228 115 LSA and AFR 205cc, and are guys sure that this will pass the CA emissions? Any more suggestions?
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Originally Posted by bulletz28
Ok guys I will take your word, I will go for 346ci stock block w/ forged internals. And 224/228 115 LSA and AFR 205cc, and are guys sure that this will pass the CA emissions? Any more suggestions?
emissions SUCK!
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This one should pass emissions , step up from the Ls6 zo6 cam

Lingenfelter GT2-3 camshaft
207/220 .571/.578 118.5 CL


http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=40 700 on a mustang dyno
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is this tested?
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Start a new thread in the Forced Induction section about emissions legal supercharger cams , see what they say .
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Originally Posted by CraZee ZO6
I wouldnt spray a magnacharged ls6 already, way to much heat. Stock internals wont last imho.

I would spray it IF I had the cash to build a motor.
CraZee - Thanks for the advice but I don't think thermodynamics is the problem w/nitrous as spraying will actually cool the intake charge. I was more concerned about the stock rods as I've read that the crank is pretty stout & the pistons would be OK as long as I kept detonation under control ( gonna use alcohol/methanol injection plus splash some C16 in the tank for that ). Of course, the ring lands COULD be an issue. I was only planning to spray about a 50-75 hp shot so I may go that route anyway. Heck, that'll be a good excuse to build a forged bottom end!!
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On my set up, I'm using stock pulley and Its fun to drive. I believe you, some guys here in Cali are running the same set up like what I got and they are on high 5's to 600 HP. I just want to play it safe, i f I have forged bottom end it more reliable and it will last longer than stocker.




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