Who are the top 5 LSX cylinder head porters in the country?
02-02-2007, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Casey Schnieder and Greg Good...both Houston porters...both with current or past instructing roles at SAM...both are considered on the A list when it comes to LS1 heads. Trevor Johnson is also badass.
02-02-2007, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
Let me try,
Paris Pugliese (formerly of TEA and SAM, now at RayMac, TFS heads, LS6 heads, etc.)
Casey Schnieder at Sam (LS6 heads)
Tony Darnell of TEA (5.3 heads)
Brian Self aka "Lump" (never seen an LS1 head from him, other stuff is killer)
Joe Prince (best 241 head I've seen...believe it or not)
Craig Gallant (SAM,GTP, only heard rumors)
I didn't make my own top 5, truth is most of the LS stuff we have was done by Paris or Tony, I will take credit for the digitizing and CNC programming though
I have seen some stuff from some of the other top guys mentioned, it wasn't very good on our bench.
The ABSOLUTE truth in hand porting ANYTHING once your are a "good porter", is LOTS of experience with THE head you are working on, irregardless of how successful you have been with other heads. At TEA each person tends to have a "specailty" and I did mostly Ford heads. So the bottom line is find someone who has the best flow numbers through the entire intake flow curve, and get them to do your heads. The beauty of the CNC is you can work on one port for days, weeks or even months and then the CNC lets you exactly duplicate after that.
Paris Pugliese (formerly of TEA and SAM, now at RayMac, TFS heads, LS6 heads, etc.)
Casey Schnieder at Sam (LS6 heads)
Tony Darnell of TEA (5.3 heads)
Brian Self aka "Lump" (never seen an LS1 head from him, other stuff is killer)
Joe Prince (best 241 head I've seen...believe it or not)
Craig Gallant (SAM,GTP, only heard rumors)
I didn't make my own top 5, truth is most of the LS stuff we have was done by Paris or Tony, I will take credit for the digitizing and CNC programming though
I have seen some stuff from some of the other top guys mentioned, it wasn't very good on our bench.
The ABSOLUTE truth in hand porting ANYTHING once your are a "good porter", is LOTS of experience with THE head you are working on, irregardless of how successful you have been with other heads. At TEA each person tends to have a "specailty" and I did mostly Ford heads. So the bottom line is find someone who has the best flow numbers through the entire intake flow curve, and get them to do your heads. The beauty of the CNC is you can work on one port for days, weeks or even months and then the CNC lets you exactly duplicate after that.
02-02-2007, 11:18 AM
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Casey Snyder @ SAM
Brandon @ SAM
Trevor Johnson
Harold @ Port Pros
Paris Pugliese
Larry Meaux
I don't know who does ET's design work but they are "The Best" CNC LSx heads I have ever seen.
Brandon @ SAM
Trevor Johnson
Harold @ Port Pros
Paris Pugliese
Larry Meaux
I don't know who does ET's design work but they are "The Best" CNC LSx heads I have ever seen.
02-02-2007, 11:19 AM
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I've seen good heads and a ton of bad heads out there.Alot of the bad heads came from top porters that specialized in big motor's.
We're lucky now to have company's putting out heads that are real good in casting like AFR,Trickflow,ETP ect so you don't have to rework stock GM heads.
We're lucky now to have company's putting out heads that are real good in casting like AFR,Trickflow,ETP ect so you don't have to rework stock GM heads.
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02-02-2007, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by V6 Bird
Very good point made here. A vast knowledge of port shapes is really what you are after. If all hes ever done is Pro Stock stuff, then id say you have an issue.
I disagree with his thinking..... Like Tooley said... experience on that particular head is paramount.
02-02-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Forteen3GT
I disagree with his thinking..... Like Tooley said... experience on that particular head is paramount.
02-02-2007, 04:44 PM
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If a head porter is good enough to port competitive Pro Stock heads, then he'll be able to Forrest Gump his way through an LSx head. Trust me.
He may not be able to do it on a laptop sitting on his couch, but he'll manage.
He may not be able to do it on a laptop sitting on his couch, but he'll manage.
02-02-2007, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Greg Good
If a head porter is good enough to port competitive Pro Stock heads, then he'll be able to Forrest Gump his way through an LSx head. Trust me.
He may not be able to do it on a laptop sitting on his couch, but he'll manage.
He may not be able to do it on a laptop sitting on his couch, but he'll manage.
02-02-2007, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang's Bane
I think what he is saying is that if he can port 4 or 5 kinds of heads, then he knows how to port anything, whereas if he only worked on 1 kind of head, then he would only know how to port it. ?? Did I make any sense there?
one would assume that he may need a few cores to get it right though??
02-02-2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Forteen3GT
gotcha... thanks for clearing that up... makes sense...
one would assume that he may need a few cores to get it right though??
one would assume that he may need a few cores to get it right though??
well yeah man, i'm not saying that any pro stock porter can just wake up in the morning, rub one out and go port the baddest LSx head ever. I am saying that with a little looking around, feeling it out, and play time he will produce something as good as, or more likely BETTER than what the average run of the mill LSx specific porter will make.
02-02-2007, 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by skipperbisket
well yeah man, i'm not saying that any pro stock porter can just wake up in the morning, rub one out and go port the baddest LSx head ever. I am saying that with a little looking around, feeling it out, and play time he will produce something as good as, or more likely BETTER than what the average run of the mill LSx specific porter will make.
hahahaha
02-02-2007, 05:34 PM
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I know before his company went to ****.....
Jay at Absolute Speed was hand porting the **** out of some damn heads.
Was pretty much making the best power in the industry along with TEA for a long time. He was porting a lot of heads for LG when they were releasing the G5x2.
What the hell is Jay doing now, anyone know????
Jay at Absolute Speed was hand porting the **** out of some damn heads.
Was pretty much making the best power in the industry along with TEA for a long time. He was porting a lot of heads for LG when they were releasing the G5x2.
What the hell is Jay doing now, anyone know????
02-02-2007, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob98LS1
But would a competitive pro stock head porter charge more to port an LSx head than an LSx specific porter at your local race shop?
