</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by my00c5:
<strong>Im the owner <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I didnt use any of my hard earned money to pay for this. I sold my old heads and cam and my 2000 rims and tires. My tuner doesnt keep any secrets from me and I was there at the shop when we flow benched the heads. Like I have mentioned in other threads Julio has done lots of homework and research and I will not reveal anything until he is ready to make it public. Why should he let this info out??? Let the other tuners sweat and come up with their own power making combos. If all tuners made the same HP and ran the same times with their packages...their wouldnt be variety. This is why CARTEK stands in a class of its own.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You are correct bro it does raise the bar for performance.

 

Terry...where in my post have I ever mentioned that I had 300 shot of juice?? My car is a stock bottom end 346 making about 550 HP at the crank. With my 150 shot of NOS it makes 700 HP. For track testing I disconnected the NOS lines and took the bottle out so I wouldnt be accused by ******** like you of using NOS.

NO stroker in this car !!!

 

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You think your lawn mower powered dragster is going to beat my car?? Dude I think you been sniffing too much octane booster. Face it Terry ..you will never...EVERRRRRRRRRR...touch my car. As my car sits now its faster then what you have. 700 HP with the bottle..AND YES THE BOTTOM END CAN HANDLE IT!!!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Back peddling a bit I see. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Anyway I run 11.16 and you run 11.8? in the 1/4. Isn't it a fact that my car is quicker? If you are talking about make believe world where you can hook up your 575rwhp, I've got a bottle sitting in the garage too. I can have it on the car in less than an hour if I want. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Terry-------is a *******
Terry-------has a Vagina, NO *****
Terry-------has MAN-BREASTS
Terry-------shows NO Dynos or timeslips.
I don't know why you guys argue back & fourth
with Terry. Don't even pay attention to him.
Everyone knows he has a thing for JS & Cartek.
What a love story..Terry does "JS" and "Cartek"!
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

Sure Terry runs low 11's, he has a race car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Is this Cartek cam emissions legal?

 

Well by the definition of a race car anyone who has a time slip has one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> I did have AC on the car when I ran 11.16. It was hooked up ghetto (due to the EWP), but it worked and I ran it. More than a lot of other guys with similar times can say. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Terry-------is a *******
Terry-------has a Vagina, NO *****
Terry-------has MAN-BREASTS
Terry-------shows NO Dynos or timeslips.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cartek doesn't show time slips either, in fact at the track they mark their cars NT so no one can see how they run. They only seem to run well at those private track rental days.. hmmm..

 

After reading some of the comments here and in other posts, I just wanted to share my opinion ...

Aren't we all here because we share the same interests and enthusiasm for our cars? Granted the tuners that we use and support with our own hard-earned money may be different, but the end result is the same: to build the car that we want for ourselves and that reflects our own personal tastes.

I support and use MTI almost exclusively, but that doesn't mean I won't or can't show respect for the great cars coming from ARE, Cartek, MMS, Thunder Racing or any of the other shops out there.

What we as customer's also need to realize is that people's livelihoods in the LS1 tuner world can and do depend to a great extent on the court of public opinion. Speaking badly of a particular shop that you don't have a "first person" direct issue with can have a wider impact than any of us realize.

Granted, there are always going to be points of conflict - that's just the nature of things, but focusing on the negative or personal attacks is just going to cause more harm than good.

Just my .02

 

Terry here is a time slip. 2 cartek heads /cam cars. Car on left on et streets and 3.90 gears and z06 trans. Car on right has 3.73 and drag radials. Heres your ******* proof jerk off. Both cars are making 440-445 rwhp and on stock suspension and 6 speed. They are not my cars but you say cartek doesnt show proof. So read em and weep em!!

<img src="http://www.cartek.net/images/ramos1107.jpg" alt=" - " />

here is a video of carteks z06 with x package :

http://www.cartek.net/videos/brent1120.wmv

<small>[ May 31, 2002, 05:22 PM: Message edited by: my00c5 ]</small>

 

My car is quicker than both those cars to the 1/8th (3340#, ~1200DA). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

60': 1.502
330': 4.424
1/8: 6.955
MPH: 97.12

Pretty close in the 1/4, this was on 1800' DA, 3400#:

RT: .657
330': 4.572
1/8: 7.114
MPH: 96.76
1000': 9.310
1/4 11.167
MPH: 121.37

I've got another slip from the same day with a slower ET (11.169 I think) and 122mph around somewhere too. Time slips don't really prove anything because you could easily just pickup someone else's, but I'll scan em both Monday at work if you want. My dyno sheet (435rwhp/400rwtq) is over at MMS', I can grab that next week too.

What's funny is how everything seems to focus on my car. You can't even have a conversation about
a 460rwhp C5 without people shifting the focus to MY cars. Good thing its running well I guess. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Weather looks like it will be in the mid 60's on Sunday, and they usually prep the track for this event. (Outlaw bracket racing at Carlsbad). I'll probably take a couple TNT runs Saturday and go for it Sunday. This is my best shot to get in the 10s for the next month or so! Wish me luck.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My car is quicker than both those cars to the 1/8th (3340#, ~1200DA).
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Still not in the quarter. Terry you have a street legal race car. They still have all their accesories, their sway bars are not disconnected(so they can handle), stock shocks, and they weigh more. When you go faster than them, then talk.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> but I'll scan em both Monday at work if you want. My dyno sheet (435rwhp/400rwtq) is over at MMS', I can grab that next week too.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Translation: I'll say this so I hope everyone forgets.

Yeah, I leave everything at work too. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Cartek doesn't show time slips either, in fact at the track they mark their cars NT so no one can see how they run. They only seem to run well at those private track rental days.. hmmm.. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
They never run NT. Where you there to see this. If you did you must have good vision to see those cars all the way from cali. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> PLus, we always post time slips.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Kinda like how JS cyber blew your dad for a good deal on those LS6 heads? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No, more like the rug burn left on your knees after leaving MMS. Terry how does it feel to be Morgans bitch? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> You guys would do great as cell mates. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm running off the shelf very budget LS1 parts, while JS is running top of the line Cartek "experimental" race package with LS6 heads and a port matched intake. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Says who? You? yeah I'm sure, with all the time you spent on your setup, you haven't tweaked it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Look, your parts are as off the shelf as Cartek's. Your heads are ported right? No difference? Just that the Cartek setup is better. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What's funny is how everything seems to focus on my car. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Because you bring the conversation there. Hey let me keep bringing up "pink elephants", if I bring that up everytime I post...well sure that'll be talked about a lot. So don't get ahead of yourself Terry.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> Wish me luck. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I will keep my fingers crossed for you, I would hate to see that sore jaw of yours be for nothing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Max <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

Good luck Terry <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

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Still not in the quarter. Terry you have a street legal race car. They still have all their accesories, their sway bars are not disconnected(so they can handle), stock shocks, and they weigh more. When you go faster than them, then talk.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What Fbodies does Cartek have running 10s? I'll bet you $50 they were as if not more stripped than my car. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Says who? You? yeah I'm sure, with all the time you spent on your setup, you haven't tweaked it. Look, your parts are as off the shelf as Cartek's. Your heads are ported right? No difference? Just that the Cartek setup is better.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I've done what I can with the car but the heads/intake are unchanged from when I took them off the shelf @ MMS. The difference is my heads were ported before they knew I was going to have them, so no special tricks or anything was done. Most shops crank up the CR and spend a lot of extra time on the "demo car" setups (IE my00C5, JS) that their regular customers don't receive. This is not the case with my setup. I've got MMS reject heads, lol. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

For my next heads/cam I'm going to use the Cartek tricks (LS6 cores, bump the CR up, port match to the intake, spend extra time on the valve job, run more cam, get better headers, run light weight wheels and race gas on the dyno, etc). For now I'm happy running on par or better than you guys using much cheaper parts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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No, more like the rug burn left on your knees after leaving MMS. Terry how does it feel to be Morgans bitch? You guys would do great as cell mates.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">If Morgan had his way I'd be running ARE parts, I'm definitely bad for business. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

Terry the c5 that ran the 11.07 was on drag radials. If this guy put on ET streets the car will be 10 second ride. Hes trying to set a record of running in the 10's on a drag radial with a c5 n/a.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Most shops crank up the CR and spend a lot of extra time on the "demo car" setups (IE my00C5, JS) that their regular customers don't receive. This is not the case with my setup. I've got MMS reject heads, lol.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As always, a bunch of BS.
Every car that gets a H/C package at cartek goes on the dyno. They know what they get compared to the last person. At cartek they always try to best the last results. They don't play the favorites game there. Maybe your used to a different game at Margon motorsports? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Maybe this is why some MMS customers are complaining about low dyno numbers? hmmm..now your making it clear Terry.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> For now I'm happy running on par or better than you guys using much cheaper parts. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Riiiight <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> Keep telling yourself that, and maybe even you'll believe it.

Terry,
No matter how many ways you package up ****, it's still ****. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> What Fbodies does Cartek have running 10s? I'll bet you $50 they were as if not more stripped than my car. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dave's. 10.90's. And he was nowhere as striped as you.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> race gas on the dyno, </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Only pump gas here <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

 

I think my car dynoed pretty well with old gas and 93 octane <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

Terry a monkey can drive an automatic down the strip. Try making your car a 6 speed and see how you drive it. 14???'s 15's?????

<small>[ May 31, 2002, 10:34 PM: Message edited by: my00c5 ]</small>

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
As my car sits now its faster then what you have. 700 HP with the bottle..AND YES THE BOTTOM END CAN HANDLE IT!!!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So the truth comes out, eh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
Terry, my lawn mower idles better than your car.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much vacuum does your lawn mower pull at idle? It's funny how you accuse me of running 5.13 gears yet JS here has (absurd) 4.56 gears. You accuse me of running (absurd) 13:1 compression yet you won't tell us what compression your "z" package is at. Maybe you know a few things we don't?

RE: JS's car. His car has never run 6.95 in the 1/8th mile. His cars best 1/8th mile is in the 7.05 range and that was with an almost 1700' better DA and a better 60' time! Same track same day I'll blow his doors off. He knows it too, you can tell from the tone of his posts. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />