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Old Feb 9, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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Does the closing rate of a cam effect valve springs(or any of the valvetrain) as much as opening ramp rate? IE will a cam with a mildly aggressive opening ramp that snaps shut quickly(aggressive closing ramp) effect valve springs like a cam with an aggressive opening ramp would?


More specifically, does closing rate effect valve float as much, more less than opening rate? What about lifter bounce?

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Does the closing rate of a cam effect valve springs(or any of the valvetrain) as much as opening ramp rate? IE will a cam with a mildly aggressive opening ramp that snaps shut quickly(aggressive closing ramp) effect valve springs like a cam with an aggressive opening ramp would?


More specifically, does closing rate effect valve float as much, more less than opening rate? What about lifter bounce?
what's your cam specs?
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This is just a hypothetical question really. Here's an example, though. All things being equal(valvetrain, heads, etc..) will cam A with a XE lobed opening and aggressive closing rate have the same effect on valve float, wear, etcc.. as cam B with an XE-R lobed opening and a more mild closing rate. Assume same mild ramp rate on opening of cam A as closing of cam B just to furthur keep things equal.
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Well......I thought that the XER was a more agressive ramp???
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Originally Posted by eLTwerker
This is just a hypothetical question really. Here's an example, though. All things being equal(valvetrain, heads, etc..) will cam A with a XE lobed opening and aggressive closing rate have the same effect on valve float, wear, etcc.. as cam B with an XE-R lobed opening and a more mild closing rate. Assume same mild ramp rate on opening of cam A as closing of cam B just to furthur keep things equal.
1. XE-R's have more lift for a given duration than an XE, hence more aggressive for given durations.
2. The ramp rate both opening and closign will affect springs.
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Originally Posted by brad8266
1. XE-R's have more lift for a given duration than an XE, hence more aggressive for given durations.
2. The ramp rate both opening and closign will affect springs.
I thougt that he had it backwards
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Originally Posted by brad8266
1. XE-R's have more lift for a given duration than an XE, hence more aggressive for given durations.
2. The ramp rate both opening and closign will affect springs.
Not entirely true, look at .006 VS .200 of same duration in XE VS XE-R
What do you see?

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Yeah well I thought Comp defined XE-R as .006-.050= 49 or lower and XE as 53 or higher. I thought XE-R lobes are more aggressive in general, maybe not at every single point(except .050-which defines the lobe).
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