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Old 03-03-2007, 02:19 PM
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Hmmm. In the idea of not flycutting for this car, keeping the IVC a little later, etc. How about an LSK 227°/227° 110° LSA +0°. That will give you this:
0.01 0.050 0.200
277 227 153 LSK
277 227 153 LSK
110 110 110
110 110 110


28.5 3.5 -33.5 BTDC (- indicates ATDC)
68.5 43.5 6.5 ABDC
68.5 43.5 6.5 BBDC
28.5 3.5 -33.5 ATDC (- indicates BTDC)
110 110 110
57 7 -67 degrees
Not much overlap, but that would idle easier .
And the overlap is centered.
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sweet 6200 thats right where i want it. this sounds like the cam for me. what would be a good gear for this cam? also would it be a pain to tune, i think i am gonna have Gomer tune it but just curious.
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I made that with the 224/228 581 112+2 Comp XE-R and stock 99 heads with 4.10 gears. You should be able to make 425+ IMHO.
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Originally Posted by 1CAMWNDR
Hmmm. In the idea of not flycutting for this car, keeping the IVC a little later, etc. How about an LSK 227°/227° 110° LSA +0°. That will give you this:
0.01 0.050 0.200
277 227 153 LSK
277 227 153 LSK
110 110 110
110 110 110


28.5 3.5 -33.5 BTDC (- indicates ATDC)
68.5 43.5 6.5 ABDC
68.5 43.5 6.5 BBDC
28.5 3.5 -33.5 ATDC (- indicates BTDC)
110 110 110
57 7 -67 degrees
Not much overlap, but that would idle easier .
And the overlap is centered.
That is a nice no split cam but it would need to be installed with a double roller and degreed to the VEs depicted above. If done dot to dot, I would advance it 2*

That would be like a TSP 228R on steroids
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That is a nice no split cam but it would need to be installed with a double roller and degreed to the VEs depicted above. If done dot to dot, I would advance it 2*

That would be like a TSP 228R on steroids
Well, you know a lot more than I do about valve evenets, I am still a novice.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
That is a nice no split cam but it would need to be installed with a double roller and degreed to the VEs depicted above. If done dot to dot, I would advance it 2*

That would be like a TSP 228R on steroids
Why do you say this cam would need to be installed with a double roller? How do you determine that from cam specs?
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Why do you say this cam would need to be installed with a double roller? How do you determine that from cam specs?
I think he meant to say 'dual valve springs.' That cam needs dual valve springs due to the high lift and aggressive ramps.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
Why do you say this cam would need to be installed with a double roller? How do you determine that from cam specs?
Because:
1- It needs to be adjustable
2- If a cam is left on a +0 advance, then you want as little slack as possible in the chain to keep those VEs, otherwise with slack you end up retarding.

Double roller fits those criterias.
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So if the cam had 2* ground in then slack wouldn't be a problem and wouldn't need to be degreed?
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Ideally all cams should be degreed, but but advancing 2* and with slack you'll be close to 0 advance if not degreed (in general)
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
This is gonna be a peaky cam as it is exhaust biased from TDC and with 40.5 IVC it will have a early peak around 6000 or so.
I would keep it on a XE-R exhaust lobe, like this:

227/232, .639/.595 110+2 LSA
That looks a lot like mine...
227/234 .639/.598 110+2
Should be here this week with a set of PRC 2.5 5.3's.
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227/232, .639/.595 110+2 LSA will this cam clear stock pistons with a milled 317 head?
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Originally Posted by BOWTIE
That looks a lot like mine...
227/234 .639/.598 110+2
Should be here this week with a set of PRC 2.5 5.3's.


And that looks a lot like the cam sitting in my living room along with my 59cc PRC 5.3L heads... 227/235 .644/.650 110+2 ... but I bet you'll have yours installed before I do. I need to spend $1300 on the rear end and $1000 on race tires before mine is going anywhere.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller


And that looks a lot like the cam sitting in my living room along with my 59cc PRC 5.3L heads... 227/235 .644/.650 110+2 ... but I bet you'll have yours installed before I do. I need to spend $1300 on the rear end and $1000 on race tires before mine is going anywhere.
You are flycutting right?
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If not, let's hope he's shifting at 2300rpm, if it fits at all.
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
You are flycutting right?
I've got Wiseco pistons with valve reliefs.
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Originally Posted by JimMueller
I've got Wiseco pistons with valve reliefs.
Cool, just update sig so people do not get the idea you are running this on stock block.
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I used to have it in there, but when they began the 500 character signature limit, I had to concatenate
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LOL you could probably pull the Kumho Ecsta info to put the motor info in.
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Originally Posted by silverbandit0996
227/232, .639/.595 110+2 LSA will this cam clear stock pistons with a milled 317 head?
I'd like to know this also.......


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