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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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noticed today pulling the tranny and clutch to change the rear main seal, that my crank moves about 1/16" forward and back (maybe a little less but it's close to that measurement), i never noticed this much play on any other LSX vehicle I've worked on, anybody have any ideas ? ..thanx
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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surely someone has some input...
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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i hear you want a min/max of somewhere around .006"
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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i believe that is for a new build, there has to be a wear limit somewhere...or for someone to ease my mind a little....thanx
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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its only going to get worse. i dont know an exact measurement but the bearing isnt too thick... (guessing) an eighth inch or so? i could get an exact measurement tomorrow, but either way, its not good. dont get me wrong i wouldnt panic or anything but definitely, schedule it.

but what do i know......?


EDIT: no, i believe i would panic... ive seen thrust bearings wear out. not an LS thrust but ive seen what it can do to a crankshaft.
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thrust wall runout is .001 in.
crankshaft endplay is .0015 to .0078 in.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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well that sux..thanx for the help
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Originally Posted by nofearracing28
thrust wall runout is .001 in.
crankshaft endplay is .0015 to .0078 in.
put an indicator on for S&G's, got .035-.037...so i guess i'm screwed...
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 11:15 PM
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ya...as long as your reading it right
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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Do a search for a history of this problem before you jump to conclusions. A service manual may be able give thrust measurement on a non new motor. On my 427 build, I ended up with a max thrust of .0035".
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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i have considerably more play than you did...
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nofearracing28
thrust wall runout is .001 in.
crankshaft endplay is .0015 to .0078 in.
that came right from gm specs
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 01:30 PM
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I had the same problem on a SBC. The Oil pump P/U tube fell off during a race. Pressure dropped and I shut it down immidiately. I replaced the P/U tube but a few months later I started hearing a knock that I couldn't find. Come to find out the counter weights on the crank were making contact with the block. Goodby crank.
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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that aint helpin me any.....
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:36 PM
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my phone doesnt take real good pictures but this ACL bearing is right at .090
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so if the thrust surface is .090, acceptable limits from GM of .0015-.0078, assuming middle of the road at .0063, i'm about .028-.030 into the bearing....nice...what are the chances of milkin this for a year or so ?
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that aint helpin me any.....
i meant piece of mind HEMIETR, not info, i appreciate your input....
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did you check your endplay?
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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so if the thrust surface is .090, acceptable limits from GM of .0015-.0078, assuming middle of the road at .0063, i'm about .028-.030 into the bearing....nice...what are the chances of milkin this for a year or so ?
id say very good... in bizarro world. who knows, you might get lucky... i wouldnt let it go any further. how many miles on it?
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Originally Posted by nofearracing28
did you check your endplay?
.035-.037, posted above
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