I tried it in neutral as well, with no luck.

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by BillyT:
<strong>I tried it in neutral as well, with no luck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BillyT,

If you couldn't turn it over with a breaker bar, then unfortunately, it is probably toast. If you have water in the oil then you have serious engine damage. Put it back stock and call your insurance company.

Sorry man.

Shane

 

I'm totally in agreement with "1320". As soon as we begin modifying our cars, we have to accept responsibility for whatever happens, better or worse. I hope you can fix the problem and get back on the road soon.

John

 

The problem i think is that when a engine is not under load, it accualty sucks water in from the exhaust, now when i go through puddles, i make sure the engines is at a higher rpm then lets just say cruising around rpm, you accualty sucked water in to the heads, just my opinion

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SPANKY LS1:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Brian99Z28:
<strong>I still think the FTRA is the silliest mod anyone could do. For what maybe .5 rwhp? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thats probably the stupidest statement I've ever heard. This from someone whose mods consist of "Hurst", probably the worst shifter ever made, and only slightly better than the stock pos, Flowmaster 80 series, probably causing you to LOSE 3-5 HP (Yes, I've had one, and in addition to sounding like ***, it flows poorly, due to its inner design), cutout, while a good HP per dollar mod, probably one of the most impractical mods, adds way too much noise, you'll look like an idiot who is only a step above a ricer, not to mention good luck with not drawing cops attention. Maybe that .5 RWHP from the FTRA would bring your car back up to the 300rwhp level it was at before that muffler. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> The FTRA has shown a .10 or greater improvement on several cars (mine included, which is probably more than all of your cars mods to date). I wouldn't drive my TRUCK through 8" of water, much less a LS1? Please...yeah, its the FTRA fault.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />

:RANT MODE OFF:</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Okay a**hole... First of all I don't remember saying anything about the FTRA being at fault in the guy's hydrolocked motor... I merely said that it was a silly mod.. Then you get your panties in a wad and start ragging on my car.

I bought the flowmaster muffler because I wanted my car to sound good when I had my cutout capped. I didn't buy it for performance you clown that's what the cutout is for... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

And I'm sure others here will agree that a cutout is one of the BEST cheap mods that you can do. And I think it sounds pretty damn good for a cost of about $50 bucks installed! You call that impractical?? How much does the FTRA cost??? But I guess by your standards any mod that doesn't cost hundreds of dollars is a ricer mod..

I enjoy every minute behind the wheel of my car.. So you can say whatever you want but the simple fact is you don't know sh** about me!

And keep your personal attacks to yourself. It's flamers like you that cause problems on these boards.

Spanky LS1's attitude = <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" />

<small>[ August 26, 2002, 11:43 PM: Message edited by: Brian99Z28 ]</small>

 

Post reading more. I agree with the guys.. Your engine is toast.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

 

Yeah swap on a stock airbox.

Eight inches of water, well all bets are off. That's above my door sills.

 

I still think the FTRA is the silliest mod anyone could do. For what maybe .5 rwhp? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

 

Umm.. The FTRA mod DID cause your problem! Ive driven through similar puddles with my stock T/A and no problems. I live in FL and it's always wet!

 

. . . damn that's a long sig . . .

. . . RAM-U-BOAT . . .

. . . Noah's Ark didn't experience this . . .

You guys ar F*($!NG KILLING ME! ROTFL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

Dude, you're problem's done. Stock the car and insurance the car. R.I.P.

My condolences . . . but . . . as said above . . . it's the chance we ALL take.

Whether hydro-lock or fried tranny or bent rods or blown gaskets or clutches etc. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />

 

[/qb][/QUOTE]Okay a**hole... First of all I don't remember saying anything about the FTRA being at fault in the guy's hydrolocked motor... I merely said that it was a silly mod.. Then you get your panties in a wad and start ragging on my car.

I bought the flowmaster muffler because I wanted my car to sound good when I had my cutout capped. I didn't buy it for performance you clown that's what the cutout is for... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

And I'm sure others here will agree that a cutout is one of the BEST cheap mods that you can do. And I think it sounds pretty damn good for a cost of about $50 bucks installed! You call that impractical?? How much does the FTRA cost??? But I guess by your standards any mod that doesn't cost hundreds of dollars is a ricer mod..

I enjoy every minute behind the wheel of my car.. So you can say whatever you want but the simple fact is you don't know sh** about me!

And keep your personal attacks to yourself. It's flamers like you that cause problems on these boards.

Spanky LS1's attitude = <img border="0" alt="[barf]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_barf.gif" /> [/QB][/QUOTE]

You said the FTRA was the "silliest mod ever", I was trying to illustrate that you have the 3 silliest mods ever, IMO. (Cutout, Hurst, Flowmaster), and the thread is about the FTRA causing the damage, BTW. As far as you not buying the muffler for performance, sound only, that is very ricerific , sounds alot like a fart pipe mod to me. As far as personal insults, where are they??? Flamers like me that cause problems on the boards? Ok, sorry, but for the $80 you spent on the muffler, the $300 you spent on the shifter, and the $50 you spent on the cutout, you could have bought some real mods. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Its all good, whose panties are in a bunch??? <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" />

<small>[ August 27, 2002, 05:05 AM: Message edited by: SPANKY LS1 ]</small>

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">

You said the FTRA was the "silliest mod ever", I was trying to illustrate that you have the 3 silliest mods ever, IMO. (Cutout, Hurst, Flowmaster), and the thread is about the FTRA causing the damage, BTW. As far as you not buying the muffler for performance, sound only, that is very ricerific , sounds alot like a fart pipe mod to me. As far as personal insults, where are they??? Flamers like me that cause problems on the boards? Ok, sorry, but for the $80 you spent on the muffler, the $300 you spent on the shifter, and the $50 you spent on the cutout, you could have bought some real mods. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Its all good, whose panties are in a bunch??? <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I know that the flowmaster doesn't flow very well... But again when the cutout is uncapped.. It flows better than ANY cat back system! Even your hooker... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

And about the hurst shifter.. It wasn't a mod! The car already came with it.. I simply put it in my sig to better describe my car to people who are interested...

And by the way, your whole reply was one big personal attack.

<small>[ August 27, 2002, 09:08 AM: Message edited by: Brian99Z28 ]</small>

 

calm down you two before I lock this down <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />

 

Hydrolocking is NOT a myth. When your engine digests water, well let just say, water DOES NOT compress like air/fuel mixture does. It does not compress AT ALL. That's why the engine would not even crank over. Try what the others have said, remove all the plugs, turn the engine and get all the water out, then try and start it. Maybe you will get lucky, but I know somebody that it happened to one time (girl had a carb sticking out of the a hole in the hood of a '78 T/A WITHOUT the fiberglass "shaker" on top, and only a paper air filter element on top, driving in the rain....) it bend gour piston rods, almost breaking two. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />

 

I am not sure what advice people gave you as I quit reading them because some people are idiots. I hydrolocked my engine about a year ago and my insurance paid for it. If you went through at a low RPM/MPH your engine should be fine. If you are lucky, the starter may be your only problem. I had a LOT of water in #7 and #8. After it was drained out, a new starter was welded back on. Aside from having a starter welded on (kinda shitty but oh well), my car still runs like a champ and I haven't had any problems since. The total cost to fix it was $1300. Don't worry about it. Good luck.

 

Damn boys! Take it easy on the kid. <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" /> Sure he could have titled the thread differently but I didn't read it as him "blaming" Fast Toys. <img border="0" alt="[judgement]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_judge.gif" /> He just meant that due to him having the FTRA on his car, his engine chugged a small lake. <img border="0" alt="[chug]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_chug.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> Damn, it's like a bunch of turkeys jumping a wounded hen. <img border="0" alt="[fight]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_punch.gif" />

Derrick <img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" />

 

God Dammit Billy...

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 1320:
<strong>This statement really says something about society.....

"Although, I would not have driven through it if I had seen it in time, but not being able to see in front of that SUV, and the town of Hackensack, not having the area well lit, and not having the road BLOCKED OFF totally screwed me!
I can’t believe the town didn’t have the road, blocked. "

Is it just me or was I the only one that was told to drive with in your limits....shouldn t you be able to see where your going? Its the citys fault for not lighting the area? Why not blame the car manufacturer for dull head lights....or the car wash for not cleaning the lenses? And its there fault for not blocking the road....cause well we all know that the dot works 24/7 on keeping us all safe from our selves......

So lets recap......you drove into deep water with a ftra that you knew you had, cause you were following a suv to closly (aka.tail gatting) that you knew you were to close too....into a poorly lit area that you could obviously tell was poorly lit cause well it was really dark.....and you knew it just rained but who in there right mind would expect water to be gathered in a low area? and its everyones elses fault?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dad, I mean Dude, kick a man while he's down. You don't think he realizes this and just needed to vent?

That sucks, I hope everything works out for you.

 

<img border="0" alt="[jester]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_jest.gif" />

Pewter f'n killed me...

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

 

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by cantdrv65:
<strong>I looked like a U-Boat commander with the Wake I was leaving behind.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> The water was above the bottom of my doors. I could see the water being pushed by the nose of the car. I'll never try that again but I would NOT have made it had I had FTRA or FRA....We had 11 inches of rain in 1hr 45mins! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Not likely - that would break the US record for a non-mountainous location. It is possible to get rainfall rates approaching that with landfalling tropical cyclones, provided there is adequate mass convergence brought about by land-surface friction. Outside of that, while rainfall can fall at that intensity level, sustaining it for 1 hour 45 min is a formidable task for the atmosphere.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am quoting what the engineers for Friendswood Development Company told the community. Believe it or not they may have scewed the numbers a bit to disguise thier drainage problem. Nevertheless, it was at LEAST 8-10 inches. I have only seen rainfall like this once before during Allison. Also, Alvin holds the US record for the most rainfall in a one day period over 20 inches...Check it out. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />