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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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Started tearing her down around 4:00 yesterday and got everything removed down to the cam retaining plate. However, I could not get those dowl rods in. I'm supposed to use 5/16" rods right?
I spun the cam a few times but you could hear lifters falling back down on it however i thought I'd try to spin it while pushing the rods in. I was having to force them inand it didnt seem right. I got the passenger side all the way in but one rod would still move a little when i spun the cam. (weird) I wasnt sure how that happened so I freaked and took them out. I'm just going to go buy 16 pen magnets to hold the lifters up for me.

BTW. When I use the pen magnets... After I remove and install the new cam, how do I get them off? I cant just pull the pen mag up until the lifter catches something and breaks loose can I? cant the lifter fall out of it's nittle hole or something? Or does that not apply on these motors?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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To get them off just pull the magnet off and the lifter will fall back down onto the cam.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:26 AM
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To get them off just pull the magnet off and the lifter will fall back down onto the cam.
Thats what i thought. My buddy had me paranoid telling me that it would fall into the valley and i'd be screwed.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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I think the biggest PITA so so has been with that one freaking double ended bolt on the back passenger side of the coil paks. It took me an hour to get that damn bolt out!

Does this one bolt HAVE to go back in? Can i leave it out wiht all the others in? I dont see the point of putting it back on.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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Most of us leave that back bolt out.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Most of us leave that back bolt out.
Good, that thing is a bitch!
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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yeah but now you got that cool loooking Charles Manson symbol carved into the top of your hand
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yeah but now you got that cool loooking Charles Manson symbol carved into the top of your hand
very true.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
yeah but now you got that cool loooking Charles Manson symbol carved into the top of your hand

Yeah that bolt is a bitch, i left mine out as well.
Be careful if your going to use pen magnents. Make sure you buy very good ones. Sometimes when pulling the magnent off of the lifter, the magnent will pop out of the pen and get stuck to the lifter. Its a huge PITA to get it, if your lucky. This happened to a buddy of mine. We spent nearly 5 hours trying to get it off the lifter.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:45 PM
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which bolt? the coil pack bolt? i had absolutely no problems at all...maybe i missed something
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cablebandit
yeah but now you got that cool loooking Charles Manson symbol carved into the top of your hand

Those damn plastic screws holding the weather stripping are Shhaarrppp!
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dub.ya.es.SICK
which bolt? the coil pack bolt? i had absolutely no problems at all...maybe i missed something
You must not drive a 4th gen...
The passenger side coil pack bracket has one bolt that you cant even see it's so far back there.

Unless you have a gimp like the bulter in scary movie II who likes to play with dead chickens' penisies and vaginies, it's a nightmare.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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yeah, I got pissed and snipped them off..
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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just leave it off, it makes taking the coil packs off much easier if u have to remove them again in the future, i know i did
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dub.ya.es.SICK
which bolt? the coil pack bolt? i had absolutely no problems at all...maybe i missed something
Us '98 owners don't have to deal with the back bolt on the bracket. I remember the first time I helped a friend with a '00. That bolt sucked. I made him get it out.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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Okay about these dowl rods. Im thinking about getting some more and trying them. I didnt realize they could be tough to get in. but after reading the article again, you can just spin the cam while insterting these to get the lifters up.

If I go to wal-mart, what size dowl rods should i get? What length should I make them?

If i get the rod all the way in, is there anyway possible that i might have missed one lifter? I'm asking because i had the passenger side all the way in but one push rod would dtill move when i turned the cam.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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Correct dowl size?
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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you should already have the rocker arms and pushrods off before you put the dowel rods in.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Griswold
you should already have the rocker arms and pushrods off before you put the dowel rods in.
yup, you need to have the rockers of so the cam can spin freely to push the lifters up without compression building.
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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i belive the rod is a 5/16 atleast thats what i got today just started my cam install tonight as well got all the springs done on the pass side... going to hit the drivers tomarrow then should be smooth sailing from there
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