Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s)
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Ahhhh John you're killing me! Drive that sucker out to California so I can fix it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Man I barely remember what it was like trying to run 10s NA in an LS1. Feels like a year ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hahahaha...........nice
<strong>Man I barely remember what it was like trying to run 10s NA in an LS1. Feels like a year ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">hahahaha...........nice
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Terry Burger:
<strong>Man I barely remember what it was like trying to run 10s NA in an LS1. Feels like a year ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hell, it WAS a year ago! ....Wait, no, that was 9s. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
<small>[ September 14, 2002, 10:36 AM: Message edited by: Colonel ]</small>
<strong>Man I barely remember what it was like trying to run 10s NA in an LS1. Feels like a year ago. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hell, it WAS a year ago! ....Wait, no, that was 9s. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) JS I meant with the combined power and weight reduction he should have 4 tenths.
Also you took more than a "little" weight out of your car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
cheers,
Chris
Also you took more than a "little" weight out of your car <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
cheers,
Chris
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) PaiN, you better start draining all the kaka out of that converter I think I need to get it from you (thx Col for answering the question on whether it was the 10.03 converter).
I have nothing else to change. Just will add FTRA and the COLonel 'verter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Ragtop, HC/I cars at least once ran 114mph that same nite.
I have nothing else to change. Just will add FTRA and the COLonel 'verter. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Ragtop, HC/I cars at least once ran 114mph that same nite.
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Is the Col/ S1 cam a 612/612//244/244//112 cam from Comp?
If so that's what I have now. It's more camming than my old Lunati 242/242//114 and it's idling high at like 1200 we think we can get it to idle at 950-1000 but I have to fill in one of my two big idle air holes.
If so that's what I have now. It's more camming than my old Lunati 242/242//114 and it's idling high at like 1200 we think we can get it to idle at 950-1000 but I have to fill in one of my two big idle air holes.
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Yes, that is the S1 cam you have. Funny how all four of this site's Admins have the same cam right now.
Now we just need one of them to get into the 10s!
-Tony
Now we just need one of them to get into the 10s!
-Tony
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
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Ragtop, HC/I cars at least once ran 114mph that same nite.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know what is considered normal mph at your track, but at Cecil & MIR running 114 mph for H/C/I would be 3 - 5 mph off from decent weather and maybe 5 - 7 mph off of mineshaft weather in late season. If that is similar to your 'hood, then you may not be as far off as you think. If you are running 6 - 8 mph faster then H/C/I cars, you are definitely getting power from your extra cubes.
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Ragtop, HC/I cars at least once ran 114mph that same nite.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't know what is considered normal mph at your track, but at Cecil & MIR running 114 mph for H/C/I would be 3 - 5 mph off from decent weather and maybe 5 - 7 mph off of mineshaft weather in late season. If that is similar to your 'hood, then you may not be as far off as you think. If you are running 6 - 8 mph faster then H/C/I cars, you are definitely getting power from your extra cubes.
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Chris I dont mean to burst your bubble but my car weighed 3562lbs when I ran the old combo,It now weighs 3518lbs with the S2X combo.Its alttle lighter but nothing rediculous...
My biggest problem was selling my TP4200 and buying the BIG Dyna's.Now that I'm going back to the YANK/HOOKERS I think I'm gonna be very happy....
Thanx for another one of your pop shots at my car,Frosty. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
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My biggest problem was selling my TP4200 and buying the BIG Dyna's.Now that I'm going back to the YANK/HOOKERS I think I'm gonna be very happy....
Thanx for another one of your pop shots at my car,Frosty. <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" />
JS
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) LOL!
"I dont mean to burst your bubble but my car weighed 3562lbs when I ran the old combo,It now weighs 3518lbs with the S2X combo.Its alttle lighter but nothing rediculous..."
I dont understand?
You lost weight yourself (~35 pounds or something? which is great BTW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ), added Kmember/A-Arms (44 pounds), HALs (8 pounds) removed AC (~25 pounds), interior stuff, Camaro seat, Juk etc, DS2's and what else?
You added a 12 bolt. (+20-30 pounds?)
What am I missing here?
That IS more than a "little" weight reduction.
Chris
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
"I dont mean to burst your bubble but my car weighed 3562lbs when I ran the old combo,It now weighs 3518lbs with the S2X combo.Its alttle lighter but nothing rediculous..."
I dont understand?
You lost weight yourself (~35 pounds or something? which is great BTW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ), added Kmember/A-Arms (44 pounds), HALs (8 pounds) removed AC (~25 pounds), interior stuff, Camaro seat, Juk etc, DS2's and what else?
You added a 12 bolt. (+20-30 pounds?)
What am I missing here?
That IS more than a "little" weight reduction.
Chris
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Chris ARE 360 ]</small>
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Chris ARE 360:
<strong>LOL!
I dont understand?
You lost weight yourself (~35 pounds or something? which is great BTW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ), added Kmember/A-Arms (44 pounds), HALs (8 pounds) removed AC (~25 pounds), interior stuff, Camaro seat, Juk etc, DS2's and what else?
You added a 12 bolt. (+20-30 pounds?)
What am I missing here?
That IS more than a "little" weight reduction.
Chris</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris - PSJ and JS must of had the same math teachers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
<strong>LOL!
I dont understand?
You lost weight yourself (~35 pounds or something? which is great BTW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> ), added Kmember/A-Arms (44 pounds), HALs (8 pounds) removed AC (~25 pounds), interior stuff, Camaro seat, Juk etc, DS2's and what else?
You added a 12 bolt. (+20-30 pounds?)
What am I missing here?
That IS more than a "little" weight reduction.
Chris</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chris - PSJ and JS must of had the same math teachers. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
My biggest problem was selling my TP4200 and buying the BIG Dyna's.Now that I'm going back to the YANK/HOOKERS I think I'm gonna be very happy....
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I doubt the new headers will be worth anything. There is no such thing as too much header in my book. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just switch over to some MMS LS1 parts and you'll get where you want to go. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
My biggest problem was selling my TP4200 and buying the BIG Dyna's.Now that I'm going back to the YANK/HOOKERS I think I'm gonna be very happy....
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I doubt the new headers will be worth anything. There is no such thing as too much header in my book. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Just switch over to some MMS LS1 parts and you'll get where you want to go. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) but JS we're talking of numbers on the order of 3-4hp here. Do you think 3-4hp or even 8-9hp will make a big difference? Maybe .05th tops if its true, and probably no gain. Doesn't seem worth it to me.
Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Chris I want that I'm sorry speach first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />
Carpet is stock,I took out 5lbs of Juk.
Everything else is the same...
Terry it was more like 10RWHP/10RWTQ all the
way til redline.
JS
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
Carpet is stock,I took out 5lbs of Juk.
Everything else is the same...
Terry it was more like 10RWHP/10RWTQ all the
way til redline.
JS
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 01:22 PM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong>JAS, funny words from a guy who has never run 11's with cam, gears, and an ATI Procharger. I bet my raceweight was 3500lbs on Thursday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">PSJ - I told you this before and I'll say it again. Your "network" must be drying up. Of course I didn't run 11's with the ATI, in fact, I NEVER ran the ATI at the track yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> BTW, just so you have your facts straight, cam is stock (selling HotCam), gears are stock 3.23's (like they've been for over a ~1.5 years!). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Although, I admit, I am curious how a low budget 7psi ATI, stock rear, 346ci forged piston, Vig2800, stock cam/tranny/rear 3650lb LS1 runs compared to a 3500lb, 422ci, stage XXX.xx rev. 34232.23 full race prepped tranny/rear Level XXX rev 3242.32 monster S1 cammed red slicked LS1. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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<strong>JAS, funny words from a guy who has never run 11's with cam, gears, and an ATI Procharger. I bet my raceweight was 3500lbs on Thursday. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">PSJ - I told you this before and I'll say it again. Your "network" must be drying up. Of course I didn't run 11's with the ATI, in fact, I NEVER ran the ATI at the track yet. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" /> BTW, just so you have your facts straight, cam is stock (selling HotCam), gears are stock 3.23's (like they've been for over a ~1.5 years!). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> Although, I admit, I am curious how a low budget 7psi ATI, stock rear, 346ci forged piston, Vig2800, stock cam/tranny/rear 3650lb LS1 runs compared to a 3500lb, 422ci, stage XXX.xx rev. 34232.23 full race prepped tranny/rear Level XXX rev 3242.32 monster S1 cammed red slicked LS1. <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) Pro Stock John
Looks like there is still a gremlin in Dragula that dont want you into 10's. Did you ever check if the intake ports match the ports on the heads. There could be some misalignment that would cost you serious hp and torque. If the heads are milled or the block decked along with production tolerances the intake might not be lined up properly.
If you have already looked into this nevermind.
Looks like there is still a gremlin in Dragula that dont want you into 10's. Did you ever check if the intake ports match the ports on the heads. There could be some misalignment that would cost you serious hp and torque. If the heads are milled or the block decked along with production tolerances the intake might not be lined up properly.
If you have already looked into this nevermind.
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) JS, IMO you are wasting time and money redoing stuff, I have done that too in the past.
I'd keep the headers. I'm sure with the right converter and shiftpoints you will run 10's you have a ton of good parts in the car.
I'd keep the headers. I'm sure with the right converter and shiftpoints you will run 10's you have a ton of good parts in the car.
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Re: Project Dragula Update (Dyno #'s) PaiN, sent you mail, I'll try Colonel's old 10.06 converter I sent you my work address.
In the meantime I'll lower my 1-2 shift point to 6600 and install FTRA.
In the meantime I'll lower my 1-2 shift point to 6600 and install FTRA.