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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RutanZ28:
<strong>I dunno why you'd need to bring back a 10 bolt.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Just cause I like to be a pain in the ****. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I was referring to the fact that I'd need to put a 10 bolt back in to make the 463rwhp pre-requisite.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RutanZ28:
<strong>The second car to receive 463 RWHP from this H/C package is an automatic corvette. How does the powertrain loss from a 12bolt compare to an auto vette IRS? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Probably identical I'm sure.

<small>[ January 28, 2003, 06:25 PM: Message edited by: verbs ]</small>

Godspeed

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I dunno why you'd need to bring back a 10 bolt. The second car to receive 463 RWHP from this H/C package is an automatic corvette. How does the powertrain loss from a 12bolt compare to an auto vette IRS? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Actually it was a Z06, and all Z06's have manual 6-speeds in them - the short geared MN12 to be exact. Corvettes are IRS and use a backbone torque tunnel design with the tranny's in the rear. This results in more drivetrain loss than the f-body's.

This is also why the Z06 made about the same power with a better tune than the first G5X-2 package we did on Louis's 1998 Z28. If properly tuned I believe the f-body had more power in it as it's AFR was still on the rick side. Unfortunately it's PCM was locked by another vendor and we could not tune it at that time before it is reflashed back to stock. <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

<small>[ January 28, 2003, 07:20 PM: Message edited by: Godspeed ]</small>

Sears

GTP heads / TR230 cam
5.3 heads milled .015
12 bolt with 4.10s
12.9 AFR / 29* timing
93 octane and always add some 104 just to be on the safe side

Dyno: 443rwhp through the dual exhasut and 445rwhp with open headers. NO spikes, no flycuts, and no LS6 heads. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Track: 122mph, full weight, 17s all around with Nitto DRs, air filter in, power steering hooked up. 11.67 is my best et with a 1.7 60' one leggin it.

ET is not all that important to me like it is for the real drag racers on here. I would rather have the MPH ( HP ).

Justin

<small>[ January 28, 2003, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Jsears8 ]</small>

Reboot

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong> Sure let's hear more average numbers for Z06s that's cool we can average them.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm coming up on 400rwhp with just bolt-ons and tuning. My mods, dyno#'s and track times are in my sig.

J-Rod

Dyno results for a stock 2002 Z06.

358 and 359 @ 1100 miles .95 C/F
356 and 357 @ 4000 miles .96 C/F
372 and 372 @ 6600 miles .96 C/F (the 15HP jump was from removing the stock airbox cover).

Here is the graph.

<img src="http://users3.ev1.net/~black_ops/z06/dyno.jpg" alt=" - " />

<small>[ January 29, 2003, 07:22 AM: Message edited by: J-Rod ]</small>

Pro Stock John

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In light of the shop vs shop stuff going on in this forum, I am going to state my point, and make sure you understood.

The folks posting in this thread, well they illustrate that bigger numbers are possible. Look at the numbers in this thread generated with LS1 heads. Now add LS6 heads. Some of the combos in this thread are two years old or more.

Point is, the LG and the Cartek numbers are certainly possible, we have to sometimes look for constructive ways to validate a number rather than quickly dismiss the possibility of the numbers being attainable on a consistent basis.

Happy motoring!!!

L4m3r

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Z28SS21:
<strong> Jim's (tamu) Z06 ran 126mph on the stock back tires. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">was that at hallsville? if so... wait till ennis opens <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

L4m3r

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by AMS:
<strong> We made 452rwhp 422rwtq like we said before. Only we had a stock shortblock, truck ls1 heads, mac headers, full exhaust, and through a 9 inch. Our cam is a hydraulic roller and fits with stock pistons.

Kooks is sending us some stepped headers, and we are getting a TB from Shaner to replace the stock one. We will see how much power it makes and post the results also.... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">wasnt that on 28 inch tall slicks?

Joe Kizzire

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong> In light of the shop vs shop stuff going on in this forum, I am going to state my point, and make sure you understood.

The folks posting in this thread, well they illustrate that bigger numbers are possible. Look at the numbers in this thread generated with LS1 heads. Now add LS6 heads. Some of the combos in this thread are two years old or more.

Point is, the LG and the Cartek numbers are certainly possible, we have to sometimes look for constructive ways to validate a number rather than quickly dismiss the possibility of the numbers being attainable on a consistent basis.

Happy motoring!!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">John I would like to see one of the cars driven directly to another dyno on the same day... That would calm the seas a good bit.

Also if they want to keep their specs secret and charge $5995.00 for the package I don't think very many F-body folks will pony up for the money... Corvette people will due to the press Lou gets in the road course venue.

If these secret spec installed packages do not carry some kind of garrentee in writing, as the old saying goes, you're buying a pig in a poke. Buyer beware!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Smoke_ur_5.0

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> John I would like to see one of the cars driven directly to another dyno on the same day... That would calm the seas a good bit.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Same here. Just to verify the numbers. Also it wouls be nice to see someone run one of these down the 1/4 too.