Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice
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Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice Barry at ARE has agreed to take my heads and fix them, but I'm afraid it will be awhile without my car. So I was wondering if I could get a set of used (or maybe new if cheap enough) stock heads and just use them temporarily. What are the price ranges for 5.3L, 5.7L, and 6.0L heads? I can't find any PN on them. Any one have the PNs? And where would be a good place to get them? I'm assuming I would need to transfer my springs over though since I do have a high ramp cam.
Also, would it be perfectly alright to reuse the gaskets and bolts if I just wanted to use them temporarily? I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Tell me the worst thing that could happen by reusing all the stuff. Hopefully it won't be long before I get my heads back anyway.
Also, would it be perfectly alright to reuse the gaskets and bolts if I just wanted to use them temporarily? I mean, what's the worst that could happen? Tell me the worst thing that could happen by reusing all the stuff. Hopefully it won't be long before I get my heads back anyway.
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice Ask Barry if they have two assembled cores you could use? Might be a lot cheaper. As far as bolts, just buy some head studs then don't worry about them again. Two sets of bolts would run you the cost of some head studs. If you reuse them you might blow a head gasket due to poor torque. Some other things may occur as well.
The gaskets are fairly cheap. If you can use the new laminated metal gaskets I believe you can reuse those. If it's the graphite type of gasket definitely get new ones.
The gaskets are fairly cheap. If you can use the new laminated metal gaskets I believe you can reuse those. If it's the graphite type of gasket definitely get new ones.
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice Thanks for the suggestions. I'd rather just have my own set of heads as a backup, I think it'd cost alot to ship a set of loaner heads back and forth anyway. So would it be around $300 for all 3 of them? In that case, what head would be better? I think I'd lean towards the 5.3L heads since I read that their port design is better than the 5.7L head? Any PNs?
I think I'll look into the ARP head studs. How much can I get them for? And do you have the PN on the reusable head gasket?
I think I'll look into the ARP head studs. How much can I get them for? And do you have the PN on the reusable head gasket?
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice I think the 6.0 and 5.3 heads generally cost a little bit more than the 5.7's. But you should be able to find a set in the classifieds if you can't get some from valvegod or find a better price.
Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by akw408:
<strong>Barry at ARE has agreed to take my heads and fix them, but I'm afraid it will be awhile without my car..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i hope there is a marked improvement.. maybe have them flow before and after.
something tells me that this does not include their $300 fix it charge? true or not please email me. Thanks
<strong>Barry at ARE has agreed to take my heads and fix them, but I'm afraid it will be awhile without my car..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">i hope there is a marked improvement.. maybe have them flow before and after.
something tells me that this does not include their $300 fix it charge? true or not please email me. Thanks
Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice I would get 6.0L heads and just change the springs and enjoy until your other heads come back. You could always send your 6.0L heads to get CNC'd for the time being..
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice I just found that out. It looks like the 6.0L heads are alittle more costly than the 5.7L heads too. Is this supply and demand or is this because the 6.0L heads are better (in terms of the porting)? The 5.7L heads are bare as well, I don't have my stock valves anymore. How much do valves cost and where should I get them? Or should I go on ebay and just look for a set of used 5.7L heads? Valvegod sells never used 5.7L heads. Also, does anyone have the PNs for these heads? I'd like to just look up 5.3L heads and see how much they cost.
Are these the ARP head bolts I need? I went to jegs and did a search :
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...44&prmenbr=361
These are reusable right?
Thanks guys.
Are these the ARP head bolts I need? I went to jegs and did a search :
http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerc...44&prmenbr=361
These are reusable right?
Thanks guys.
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice Okay, nevermind about the LS1 vs 6.0L head. I did a search and it seems like 6.0L heads should be superior to the LS1 heads. Now if I could only get a PN, then I could compare the used price to the new price and make a decision. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Still would like to know about the ARP head bolts though. Thanks!
Still would like to know about the ARP head bolts though. Thanks!
Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice Hey guys -
here's a little known fact, 6.0L head castings are the same as LS6, with the exception of bigger combustion chambers. intake and exhaust ports are the same. e-mail me, and maybe I can help.
epotter@lingenfelter.com
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here's a little known fact, 6.0L head castings are the same as LS6, with the exception of bigger combustion chambers. intake and exhaust ports are the same. e-mail me, and maybe I can help.
epotter@lingenfelter.com
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Dyno:
<strong>E-mail me if you need used 6.0 or 5.3 heads. I have both in stock. Thanks, Dan</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sent mail
<strong>E-mail me if you need used 6.0 or 5.3 heads. I have both in stock. Thanks, Dan</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">sent mail
Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice I would not go with the 5.3L heads as a plain swap.. They flow less than the 5.7's secondary to the smaller valves.. Therefore performance would suck.
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Re: Shipping my heads back to ARE, need advice About the head gaskets, what are the pro and cons for the earlier GM head gaskets and the 2002+ GM head gaskets?
I think I found the right ARP part, those were the bolts. I found the studs.
And thanks guys for mentioning a few more sources for 6.0L heads.
I think I found the right ARP part, those were the bolts. I found the studs.
And thanks guys for mentioning a few more sources for 6.0L heads.