GrannySShifting

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A small cam on a 115

Patrick G

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I've got it. Awesome power everywhere. Beat my TR224/224 112LSA and TR230/224 111LSA cams from idle to 6400 rpms. With .600 lift on the intake, you will need really good springs, but it idles like a stock LS1 cam.

gator's 99TA

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when is there going to be more info on this cam? it is interesting stuff!

Patrick G

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Check out these threads:

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...c;f=1;t=008209

https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.p...c;f=1;t=008636

gator's 99TA

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thanks patrick! when will we be seeing some dyno numbers? since that cam is partial to auto guys and you have one, would you release your dyno figure? most of us understand what a big stall dyno looks like. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> when is thunder racin going to release this info? also is it on xe-r lobes?

thanks and looking forward to this info!

GrannySShifting

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you all still want a six speed test car... my grandmothers 02 WS6 will fit the bill nicely <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Just got a stock baseline of 325/350 with some ls1 edit tweakin and shes looking for a quiet setup.

o you have a cam doctor sheetsyou could send me, along with some form stock cams?

Louie

ha, sounds good, wonder how the oldman cam would work in a z06 02 with stock exhaust manifolds?

Or a 2000 up FBody with stock manifolds and good Y pipe. I just don't like all that noise from headers.

<small>[ November 12, 2002, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: Louie ]</small>

Patrick G

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Louie!!! You're back!!!!

Yes, I think this cam would work well with good flowing exhaust manifolds. If you could adapt the ZO6 manifolds to work on an F-Body (with different K-Member), you would come close to the power numbers from shorty headers without the annoying sound. Just keep in mind you need good flowing heads and excellent springs for the fast ramp intake lobes.

Patrick

02SilverWS6

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patrick G:
<strong>I've got it. Awesome power everywhere. Beat my TR224/224 112LSA and TR230/224 111LSA cams from idle to 6400 rpms. With .600 lift on the intake, you will need really good springs, but it idles like a stock LS1 cam.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Won't you need stronger pushrods or is that all you need above!??!

Patrick G

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Good call. Stronger pushrods are a must with any aftermarket cam.

jmX

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Patrick G:
<strong>Good call. Stronger pushrods are a must with any aftermarket cam.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Why do you say that? There are lots of people running stock pushrods with fast ramp cams and stiff springs and they seem to work just fine.

Louie

yep got a turbo VW 4 banger (highest HP in America bar none) and a Volvo turbo for the wife. Still work on a few LS1s. I like your cam, heads, z06 manifolds Y pipe. I even like the 2.73 gears and what ever converter you rec. But I'm on the fence on getting a new Camaro, sort of got my heart set on something else. But with zero intrest....

Kind of funny as I've gone from BB Mopar, to 2tG toyota with N20, to triple web BMW to turbo Mopar, to turbo VTEC, to LS1 to turbo VW / turbo Volvo, and I'm looking into a supercharged Benz. Well I'm guru status once again on the turbo euro board, never get into any Mustang mashing (allways fun), the primary enemy are winged ricers, I always slap the VW guys down when they think they can beat a LS1 or GN (my other favorite car/engine).

Patrick G

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LOL,

I know what you mean Louie. I'm probably going to sell the SS Convertible and start another project soon. One that's been kicked around is getting a Lexus IS-300 and doing the Supra big single turbo conversion to it. The motors are so similar, it would be cool to have a 800rwhp 4 door car to haul myself and my 4 kids in. That's right. I now have 4 kids. These F-Bodies sure get tight when you're hauling around the family, haha. Until the car gets sold, I'll keep making it faster and more stock sounding every day.

eb02z06

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Patrick do think that cam would still be just as effective on my 02 Z06 if I asked Thunder to change the lift specs to say .575/560. I'm just concerned about 600 lift with any of the aftermarket springs available and all the breakage I keep hearing about. I know the LS6 heads flow to at least .550, they flow around 278.

Patrick G

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Those spec would be fine. You could also run a cam almost exactly like mine, but with the regular Thunder Lobes. Something like 214/220 .564/.527 115 LSA -2. This would rock with Z06 heads.

Louie

My old girl friend has a Lexus with a turbo in it, she races in Seattle area now. Big $$$ went into that setup. She's a doctor and her boyfriend is some Microsquash nerd.

Benz is better Patrick

http://www.kleemann.dk/compressor/graph55.html

I even like the 330HP SLK. Let me know if you go to Benz, as that is what I got my heart set on. http://www.kleemann.dk/compressor/graph32.html

This is lots of whomp in a small car, my good friend here chips the stock AMG to 350 HP also, but no way I could afford that, until my next son comes along that is, ya know the way Asian family work, produce sons, get money, produce girls, well they cut you nuts off after the second "mistake".

Still trying to get rid of the sister in law to a good home. Stats: rich, educated, head cheerleader, full Asian right off the boat, no kids, she is supposed to be real pretty and she is in shape, but I think my wife is way better looking, seeks, nice white guy or other with education, no kids, won't beat her up (hard to find in Texas). Hey, I don't care what color she dates, I just know she likes tall, dark hair white boys.

Oh this is tech here you go:
.600 lift is no problem as long as you go to the 1.81 install height and make sure you don't see bind till 1.101. Guessing the ramp profile you need at least 115 lbs on the seat and 360 lbs open, yes I know you want more on the seat, but it will be hard to get a single spring to be progressive on max open and get higher than 115 on the seat. If you do the dual spring setup no problem. I talked to Ed Chang? from Rev like 5 years ago to design a set at 1.80 install 1.100 bind. 125 seat, 360 open, dual spring titanium retainer.

295-D
http://www.iskycams.com/whatsnew_index.html
Just don't screw up on the install height as it clearly list bind at 1.100 + .100 as high speed clearance + .600 lift is a 1.80 install got it?

JNX, why would you run a steel heavy, brittle push rod, on a .600 lift motor with rapid profiles when you can have a potential lighter, more flexible, one piece, moly push rod that is also more rigid in operation? If you can answer that you will know why Patrick tells people to change their push rods. Kind of like putting in a brittle spaghetti noodle into your valve gear.

<small>[ November 13, 2002, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Louie ]</small>

GrannySShifting

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Pat do you have the valve tiking events for this cam, cam doctor info or the cam card?