427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update Hi Lyle,
Here is a picture of it on my maintenance ramp.
<img src="http://www.game-port.com/camaro6.jpg" alt=" - " />
Here is the dyno graph: Correction on the specs.
1998 Auto, Vigilante 3200
<img src="http://www.game-port.com/camaro7.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 19, 2002, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
Here is a picture of it on my maintenance ramp.
<img src="http://www.game-port.com/camaro6.jpg" alt=" - " />
Here is the dyno graph: Correction on the specs.
1998 Auto, Vigilante 3200
<img src="http://www.game-port.com/camaro7.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 19, 2002, 01:15 PM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks
11-21-2002, 11:57 AM
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong>Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Lyle,
If I didn't have to pass CA emission, I would have the biggest cam I can live with. After you get it see if it suits you.
Good luck,
Leo
<strong>Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Lyle,
If I didn't have to pass CA emission, I would have the biggest cam I can live with. After you get it see if it suits you.
Good luck,
Leo
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong>Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Youl idle something like the 228 guys idle with stock cubes. or even a tad better with the 114ls.
i would not worry
<strong>Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Youl idle something like the 228 guys idle with stock cubes. or even a tad better with the 114ls.
i would not worry
11-22-2002, 12:17 AM
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update Quickin,
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don’t’ worry about it. As long as programming is good you’ll be just fine.
I got almost identical cam in mine and here’s a quote from my post on CF regarding same matter:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got
240/244 .608"/.612" lift 114LS according to the cam card.
Idle and drivability is beyond excellent. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
There’s no stalling, no surging, no hanging rpm, idle set to 975rpm. AC on – no problem.
Maybe I got used to it already, but other than 975rpm idle vs. 750rpm stock I can’t even really think of any difference in drivability from stock…
Oh btw, other than a knock sensor code, which was identified as a loose wire, I haven’t gotten any codes either.
Hope this helps…
P.S. I haven’t tested mine yet, but another motor which was identical to mine (heads, cam , bore, stroke, CR, etc) passed “rolling dyno” emissions running through hi-flow cats….
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pedal or anyone,
Quick question:
Little off topic. I just got an e-mail from Mike Norris who is installing everything in my sig. He said that the cam that ARE put in is allot bigger than Nick Agostino and I discussed putting in. Its 242/242 .610/.610 114.
Is this gonna idle like crap or what?
This sucks man.
Thanks</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Don’t’ worry about it. As long as programming is good you’ll be just fine.
I got almost identical cam in mine and here’s a quote from my post on CF regarding same matter:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I got
240/244 .608"/.612" lift 114LS according to the cam card.
Idle and drivability is beyond excellent. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
There’s no stalling, no surging, no hanging rpm, idle set to 975rpm. AC on – no problem.
Maybe I got used to it already, but other than 975rpm idle vs. 750rpm stock I can’t even really think of any difference in drivability from stock…
Oh btw, other than a knock sensor code, which was identified as a loose wire, I haven’t gotten any codes either.
Hope this helps…
P.S. I haven’t tested mine yet, but another motor which was identical to mine (heads, cam , bore, stroke, CR, etc) passed “rolling dyno” emissions running through hi-flow cats….
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 383ss:
<strong>my 224/224 in my 382 stroker was almost a stock idle. VERY TAME. yours will be even tamer with the bigger cubes.
Personally I think you could have probably went with something like a 229/229 and still idled close to stock, but to each his own.
a BAD *** daily driver <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How do you think my 436cid will idle with the 244/244?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd guess you'd have a nice idle with a nice lope. I would think you wouldn't have any surging problems or have to raise the idle much.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 383ss:
<strong>my 224/224 in my 382 stroker was almost a stock idle. VERY TAME. yours will be even tamer with the bigger cubes.
Personally I think you could have probably went with something like a 229/229 and still idled close to stock, but to each his own.
a BAD *** daily driver <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How do you think my 436cid will idle with the 244/244?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'd guess you'd have a nice idle with a nice lope. I would think you wouldn't have any surging problems or have to raise the idle much.
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update Thanks for the re-assurance. I hope you're all right. My programming was done by Ed Wright, so at least that shouldn't be a problem. I should know on Monday or Tuesday.
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by pedaltothemetal:
<strong>Since 9/13 have put on 4000 miles without any problems or SES lights.
Passed California emissions too!
Also great gas milage. 21 mpg on a yesterday's 250 mile daytrip!
For you guys afraid to build a daily driver big bore. Go for it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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1998 Z28 MMS 427 C5R BLOCKED A4</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.
<strong>Since 9/13 have put on 4000 miles without any problems or SES lights.
Passed California emissions too!
Also great gas milage. 21 mpg on a yesterday's 250 mile daytrip!
For you guys afraid to build a daily driver big bore. Go for it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Leo
1998 Z28 MMS 427 C5R BLOCKED A4</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InvisibleSun:
<strong>[QUOTE]That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent service! Say Hi to Al for me!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
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<strong>[QUOTE]That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent service! Say Hi to Al for me!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
Leo
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by pedaltothemetal:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InvisibleSun:
<strong>[QUOTE]That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent service! Say Hi to Al for me!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
Leo</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you know the exact dates and where for the Texas shootout?
Maybe I'll drive there to.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InvisibleSun:
<strong>[QUOTE]That's awesome! I am taking my car in in February to MMS to do a 427 (I believe with Darton sleeves) and a blower. That should be pretty fun but no way I'm gonna pass (or try to pass) smog here in CA. Too many things I want to do to it...
How was your experience with MMS? So far they've been GREAT answering all my thousands of questions.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Excellent service! Say Hi to Al for me!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
Leo</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Do you know the exact dates and where for the Texas shootout?
Maybe I'll drive there to.
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update qb][/QUOTE]Excellent service! Say Hi to Al for me!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
Leo[/QB][/QUOTE]
Great, thanks! I've only spoken with Al once briefly - I'm mostly dealing with Mike. I'm sure I'll meet the whole gang in Feb., though. I would love to drive to Texas (I've made the TX-Los Angeles drive more times then I (or my various cars) care to remember. One more time wouldn't hurt! It's beautiful country out there!
Can't wait to see what you will do at the track. Going to be REAL fast! Try to make it to the Texas Spring Break shootout. I'm going to drive there!
Leo[/QB][/QUOTE]
Great, thanks! I've only spoken with Al once briefly - I'm mostly dealing with Mike. I'm sure I'll meet the whole gang in Feb., though. I would love to drive to Texas (I've made the TX-Los Angeles drive more times then I (or my various cars) care to remember. One more time wouldn't hurt! It's beautiful country out there!
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Quickin:
<strong>[QUOTE]Do you know the exact dates and where for the Texas shootout?
Maybe I'll drive there to.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Lyle,
It's 3/9/03.
Here is the info page under Gatherings on the main page.
I'll be running low 12's on Nitto DRs in the 12's category, and ET Brackets. You should try that too since we both don't have roll cages.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=35
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<small>[ November 23, 2002, 05:43 AM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
<strong>[QUOTE]Do you know the exact dates and where for the Texas shootout?
Maybe I'll drive there to.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Lyle,
It's 3/9/03.
Here is the info page under Gatherings on the main page.
I'll be running low 12's on Nitto DRs in the 12's category, and ET Brackets. You should try that too since we both don't have roll cages.
https://ls1tech.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=forum;f=35
Leo
<small>[ November 23, 2002, 05:43 AM: Message edited by: pedaltothemetal ]</small>
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InvisibleSun:
<strong>qb]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great, thanks! I've only spoken with Al once briefly - I'm mostly dealing with Mike. I'm sure I'll meet the whole gang in Feb., though. I would love to drive to Texas (I've made the TX-Los Angeles drive more times then I (or my various cars) care to remember. One more time wouldn't hurt! It's beautiful country out there!</strong>[/QUOTE]
Say Hi to Mike too! Derek, Joe, Bubba too if you see them.
I drove straight thur TX before, and it's flat, flat, flat. The cows were beautiful and they were all under one tree cause it was REAL hot that summer day!
Leo
<strong>qb]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great, thanks! I've only spoken with Al once briefly - I'm mostly dealing with Mike. I'm sure I'll meet the whole gang in Feb., though. I would love to drive to Texas (I've made the TX-Los Angeles drive more times then I (or my various cars) care to remember. One more time wouldn't hurt! It's beautiful country out there!</strong>[/QUOTE]
Say Hi to Mike too! Derek, Joe, Bubba too if you see them.
I drove straight thur TX before, and it's flat, flat, flat. The cows were beautiful and they were all under one tree cause it was REAL hot that summer day!
Leo
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Re: 427 MMS C5R Blocked Reliability Update </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ls1fun:
<strong>Glad to see it has all worked out for you.
You have made some great choices and have a great car.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Ron,
Thanks!
Sure has been an interesting 3 years!
All the best! Heard you are now a proud papa! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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<strong>Glad to see it has all worked out for you.
You have made some great choices and have a great car.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hi Ron,
Thanks!
Sure has been an interesting 3 years!
All the best! Heard you are now a proud papa! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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