NHRA Stock engine build
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NHRA Stock engine build Without giving away your secrets has anyone built any LS1s for stock racing and what kind of power are you making?I was thinking of doing something a little different.
Re: NHRA Stock engine build I would be very interested in this also. <img border="0" alt="[devil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
I would love to do some S/E racing with a LS1 M6 Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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I would love to do some S/E racing with a LS1 M6 Hot Rod. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="gr_images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build From what I have heard, it is things that we would consider 'small'. Like polishing the crankshft journals for example. Individually there are not much, but added together they add up to like 10rwhp. In stock car racing, that is a big advantage <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jay 95WS6:
<strong>from my expierence NHRA stock racing is that is almost a secret society you either know about the stuff that you need to do to go fast or you don't.
Jay</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or you pay someone that does know the stuff a lot of money to build it for you. You may be able to dig up a little bit of information from some of the guys at http://www.classracer.com.
<strong>from my expierence NHRA stock racing is that is almost a secret society you either know about the stuff that you need to do to go fast or you don't.
Jay</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Or you pay someone that does know the stuff a lot of money to build it for you. You may be able to dig up a little bit of information from some of the guys at http://www.classracer.com.
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build I race a 02 Camaro in NHRA stock eliminator. As a E/SA, (3400 lbs.) best ET of 10.81 @ 122.93 Best 60 ft 1.37 Twice I cleared the 60 ft timer with the front wheels and went a 1.49 60 ft on the back tires. Find a good engine and trans builder, Holley EFI system, QA1 shocks, VP fuel, KTRE 12 bolt, M/W axles and spool, Turbo Action convertor and Goodyear radial slicks. Simple. Dyno
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build 5500+rpm stall and 6.XX+ gears not for the faint of heart and dyno we went a 1.29 60' on the rear tires in F/SA trim <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build Talking to Brian at Hi tech motorsports (builder for Al Corda) Al's LS1 made 597 hp top stock trim <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by zturbo:
<strong>Talking to Brian at Hi tech motorsports (builder for Al Corda) Al's LS1 made 597 hp top stock trim <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Steven</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> On nitrous, maybe...... but normally... uhhh.....no, not really..... not even close.
<strong>Talking to Brian at Hi tech motorsports (builder for Al Corda) Al's LS1 made 597 hp top stock trim <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Steven</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> On nitrous, maybe...... but normally... uhhh.....no, not really..... not even close.
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by LS1derfull:
<strong>Thats flywheel hp ....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, that's what I meant.... and the answer is still "Not even close".
<strong>Thats flywheel hp ....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yes, that's what I meant.... and the answer is still "Not even close".
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> On nitrous, maybe...... but normally... uhhh.....no, not really..... not even close. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I was just told this when I had talked to Brian. I don't care what he made to be honest, I have a engine builder and it is not Hitech motorsports. Just relaying what i was TOLD.
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build before you call BS do the math 3400 + lb car to accelerate to a 10.XX et on a 9" tire it's not that easy. especially when you have a STOCK (unported) Throttle body and Stock (unported) LS1 heads....
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build A lot of people have trouble believing what can and is done in NHRA STOCK and SUPER STOCK racing but i have seen it and it is real!LS1 heads are perfect for these types of racing and they clean up because of it and rest of motor advantages.
"NOt even close" should be for describing rest of the field in class racing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
"NOt even close" should be for describing rest of the field in class racing! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Re: NHRA Stock engine build mike hoffpauir ran 11.16 @119 with cam only @3350raceweight.yes he has a ported t.b.,hes cam has to much lift,but im sure a little r/d would come up with a cam VERY similiar in hp gains that would pass nhra spec.and make the mods a nhra stocker does to heads and bottom end,i could easily beleive 10.8s or better.
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Jay 95WS6:
<strong>before you call BS do the math 3400 + lb car to accelerate to a 10.XX et on a 9" tire it's not that easy. especially when you have a STOCK (unported) Throttle body and Stock (unported) LS1 heads....
Jay</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car has gone 10.0's @ 130+ in EXCELLENT air and a race weight of 3010 lbs. The heads, intake & TB are stock. The cam is a HR w/.500" lift and the bottom end has stock type and weight replacement piston & ring pkg. with a 3.965" bore. There are no valve reliefs in the pistons either. TH200 trans, alum. drive shaft and a KTRE replacement 12 bolt diff with stock suspension links (bolt on traction bars allowed).
According to my power/speed calculator, this means 540 hp, but the car is more efficient than that and doesn't actually make that much.
<strong>before you call BS do the math 3400 + lb car to accelerate to a 10.XX et on a 9" tire it's not that easy. especially when you have a STOCK (unported) Throttle body and Stock (unported) LS1 heads....
Jay</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The car has gone 10.0's @ 130+ in EXCELLENT air and a race weight of 3010 lbs. The heads, intake & TB are stock. The cam is a HR w/.500" lift and the bottom end has stock type and weight replacement piston & ring pkg. with a 3.965" bore. There are no valve reliefs in the pistons either. TH200 trans, alum. drive shaft and a KTRE replacement 12 bolt diff with stock suspension links (bolt on traction bars allowed).
According to my power/speed calculator, this means 540 hp, but the car is more efficient than that and doesn't actually make that much.
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Re: NHRA Stock engine build Give ARE a call, we have done many of these. The 3.965 bore resleved block <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" /> works great as well as the "trick" valve work. Approx. 550 hp with a.475 lift cam and almost stock compression ratio! 10.20's @ 127 mph @ 3250.