View Poll Results: Which cam should I go with?
TSP 228r
28
34.57%
TSP Torquer V.2
53
65.43%
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Final cam decision, please vote!
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Originally Posted by Tainted
Ok folks I got it narrowed down to 2 cams. I've filtered out all the others and only intrested in these 2. Tell me what one you would go with and WHY!!
TSP 228R
228/228 .588/.588 112lsa
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TSP Torquer v.2
232/234 .595/.595 112lsa
This car will more than likely get a set of ported LS6 heads with all the goodies and I WILL NOT go over a 3200 stall! Driveability is a huge factor, I can't have it not finding an idle and giving me constant problems. Bryan @ pcmforless will be doing the tune since theres literally no one for at least 2 hours around me that can dyno tune. I will also be passing NC emissions which is the pcm check
***Does anyone think the torquer 2 will be to big for a DD on a 3200 stall and mail-order tune? seriously folks put some input in 8 votes and no info
TSP 228R
228/228 .588/.588 112lsa
OR
TSP Torquer v.2
232/234 .595/.595 112lsa
This car will more than likely get a set of ported LS6 heads with all the goodies and I WILL NOT go over a 3200 stall! Driveability is a huge factor, I can't have it not finding an idle and giving me constant problems. Bryan @ pcmforless will be doing the tune since theres literally no one for at least 2 hours around me that can dyno tune. I will also be passing NC emissions which is the pcm check
***Does anyone think the torquer 2 will be to big for a DD on a 3200 stall and mail-order tune? seriously folks put some input in 8 votes and no info
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I really don't think that you would see any drivablilty issues with a bigger stall; but it is all in what you want. As was stated already, the tune will make or break your drivablility. I have a bigger cam and stall and could DD mine without a problem. Daily drivablility is all in the eye of the beholder though. I voted Torquer V2. Good luck!
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Mail order tune and larger cam is going to leave you disappointed in your want of great driveability. You could get away if your an M6 but with an A4 the tune is critical to driveability. There's no need to go with the T.V2 if you plan on spinning the motor to 6300rpms. You also have a high mile shortblock to think about.
Go with the 228R and be happy. With a good set of heads it will give you all you want in the power department and be easier to tune with your A4. IMO Your overcamming your engine with the TV2 unless you only live at the track and drive on weekends.
Go with the 228R and be happy. With a good set of heads it will give you all you want in the power department and be easier to tune with your A4. IMO Your overcamming your engine with the TV2 unless you only live at the track and drive on weekends.
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Out of your two choices, I voted 228R.
Most of the people who are touting the T.v2 cam are running manuals, and you can get away with spinning the motor past 6300 rpms. In an A4 car, extending the shiftpoint much beyond 6000 can shorten the tranny's lifespan. Shifting a stock 4L60e at 6800 will wipe it out in short order.
Consider having TSP do a custom grind for you. Tightening the LSA up to 110 and advancing it a couple of degrees will give you an IVC of 42, which should bring the curve down some and peak about 6100. Shift it at that rpm and your tranny will be much happier.
Most of the people who are touting the T.v2 cam are running manuals, and you can get away with spinning the motor past 6300 rpms. In an A4 car, extending the shiftpoint much beyond 6000 can shorten the tranny's lifespan. Shifting a stock 4L60e at 6800 will wipe it out in short order.
Consider having TSP do a custom grind for you. Tightening the LSA up to 110 and advancing it a couple of degrees will give you an IVC of 42, which should bring the curve down some and peak about 6100. Shift it at that rpm and your tranny will be much happier.
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Originally Posted by Tainted
I can get ls7 lifters cheap that aint a problem and i suppose i could upgrade the springs if yall see a need for them. if the peak is at 6300 though why keep it spinning?
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I've had a 3500 stalled auto and a TSP 225. Out of those two cams and considering your goals I would suggest the 228. Like others have said, a mail order tune isnt gonna get you where you want/need to be drivability wise. Also in my opinion, a 3200 stall isnt optimal for the torquer. Lastly, your gonna REALLY be short-shifting the car with how low your willing to spin it. With the little 225/225 112 cam I had, I shifted it at 6500, rev-limiter at 6800. You always want to shift 300 or so higher than the actual peak for optimal results.
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Get the 228 with the LS6 heads. I've already researched the exact same two cams and have the same goals as you. All this talk about shifting at redline and what to set your rev limiter at doesn't seem all that relevant considering this is still your daily driver... it's not going to see a ton of track time is it? Also consider you're probably only giving up about 10-15 rwhp between the two cams which is hardly noticeable. I'd go with the 228 and slightly lower hp/tq peak since it is your daily driver.
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I might go to the track noce or twice a year, I really just like the open country roads and zipping through the corners and all, and of a course good ol highway pulls. I just considered the torquer 2 because it wasnt to much bigger but it peaked higher and heat kills A4 cars. im getting a tranny cooler for the stall but it still may not be enough to save it from revving to 6500
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Originally Posted by Red 01SS
Hell, if you are wanting to get the 228 you may as well just buy mine lol. It only has about 1000-1500 miles on it. 228/228 588/588 114, I have the cam card and everything
why would I buy yours when I get it in the heads/cam package with a 112lsa?