Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed?
11-26-2002, 11:19 PM
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Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? Just wondering if this would be a good daily driver cam that could still pull 400+ at the wheels with a good set of S2 MTI LS6 Heads..
What do you think about it?
What do you think about it?
11-27-2002, 01:12 AM
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Re: Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? Yea - "I think" this cam profile would put out some good #s while being a little sneaky with the proper idle rpms...
Maybe a 112 LSA would be better and no advancement? What do you think?
Maybe a 112 LSA would be better and no advancement? What do you think?
11-29-2002, 01:37 AM
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Re: Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? Come on - I know some of you guys here have to have seen a cam like this?
Or why wouldnt you want to shorten the duration (to have a friendly idle) and make up duration time with a higher lift?
What would this cam act like?
What kinda power would/could it make?
Or why wouldnt you want to shorten the duration (to have a friendly idle) and make up duration time with a higher lift?
What would this cam act like?
What kinda power would/could it make?
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Re: Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? Why not increase the duration some? And who is going to grind you hydraulic ramps more aggerssive than the XE-Rs?
11-29-2002, 08:07 PM
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Re: Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong>Why not increase the duration some? And who is going to grind you hydraulic ramps more aggerssive than the XE-Rs?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would like to know if you can accomplish 400+ without having a chop idle - thus the short duration.. and emissions "friendly"...
And again - that what and why I am asking you guys - what would a cam like this act like? And does anyone have one?
Just curious... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
<strong>Why not increase the duration some? And who is going to grind you hydraulic ramps more aggerssive than the XE-Rs?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I would like to know if you can accomplish 400+ without having a chop idle - thus the short duration.. and emissions "friendly"...
And again - that what and why I am asking you guys - what would a cam like this act like? And does anyone have one?
Just curious... <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_cheers.gif" />
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11-30-2002, 10:22 PM
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Re: Has anyone had a 222/220 .591/.571 113 + 3 cam installed? JMO
Actually, my 224/224 XE-R is sort of close to that in some ways. It's on a 113 LSA and ended up with 2.75 degrees advance.
Since a TR-224 on a 114 LSA has passed emissons I don't think you'll gain any emissions edge or power over it. Your cam will probably flow less on the intake side and make less power as a result. Most ported heads will loose flow over before .591
As mentioned before more aggresive than an XE-R with 222 duration and .591 lift as an XE-R with 222 is .581 lift. Cam should be harder on valve train and make valve train noiser than an XE-R does. My valve trains is nice a loud as is <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Also I don't think trimming 2 degrees off of the exhaust will really help much over a 222/222
A 224/220 XE-R on a 113 might be a little cleaner than than a TR-224 and make similar power or a tad more if the heads have a good exhaust port and system.
A 222/218 would probablly do what you want to do but again, why give up exhaust duration when exhaust as big as 224 can pass?
Actually, my 224/224 XE-R is sort of close to that in some ways. It's on a 113 LSA and ended up with 2.75 degrees advance.
Since a TR-224 on a 114 LSA has passed emissons I don't think you'll gain any emissions edge or power over it. Your cam will probably flow less on the intake side and make less power as a result. Most ported heads will loose flow over before .591
As mentioned before more aggresive than an XE-R with 222 duration and .591 lift as an XE-R with 222 is .581 lift. Cam should be harder on valve train and make valve train noiser than an XE-R does. My valve trains is nice a loud as is <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Also I don't think trimming 2 degrees off of the exhaust will really help much over a 222/222
A 224/220 XE-R on a 113 might be a little cleaner than than a TR-224 and make similar power or a tad more if the heads have a good exhaust port and system.
A 222/218 would probablly do what you want to do but again, why give up exhaust duration when exhaust as big as 224 can pass?
