HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil
HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil I was changing my oil just now and when taking the drain plug out there was what looks to be a broken washer.
It looks nothing like the Ti retainers I put in over a month ago. Car is running great.
Here is a photo of the two pieces.
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/broken.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
It looks nothing like the Ti retainers I put in over a month ago. Car is running great.
Here is a photo of the two pieces.
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/broken.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 08:35 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil here is another shot that gives you a better idea of the size of this thing.
<img src="http://www.ws6transam.com/images/Lunaticta/wtf.jpg" alt=" - " />
<img src="http://www.ws6transam.com/images/Lunaticta/wtf.jpg" alt=" - " />
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>what is the size of them? Got a photo next to a penny or something?
Valvespring shim washer?
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the ones we put it were Ti, I am pretty sure that Ti isn't magnetic and this was sticking to his drain plug.
It is a bit too thick for a stock one..
Thanks,
C
<strong>what is the size of them? Got a photo next to a penny or something?
Valvespring shim washer?
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">the ones we put it were Ti, I am pretty sure that Ti isn't magnetic and this was sticking to his drain plug.
It is a bit too thick for a stock one..
Thanks,
C
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>How thick is it? Any idea of type of metal? I can't think of any washer that size inside of an engine.
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It looks to be about 1/16" thick.
I have been sitting here for the last half hour trying to figure out what would be that size inside the block as well and can't come up with a dang thing.
C
<strong>How thick is it? Any idea of type of metal? I can't think of any washer that size inside of an engine.
Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It looks to be about 1/16" thick.
I have been sitting here for the last half hour trying to figure out what would be that size inside the block as well and can't come up with a dang thing.
C
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil Thrust bearing. Nothing to worry about.
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You got me stumped, post up when you figure it out.
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You got me stumped, post up when you figure it out.
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong>I have my motor in pieces outside and I can look, if need be.
It looks like a aftermarket valve spring seat though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We will check them, but the new seats were not steel like this seems to be, they looked like the same material as the Ti retainers.
C
<strong>I have my motor in pieces outside and I can look, if need be.
It looks like a aftermarket valve spring seat though.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">We will check them, but the new seats were not steel like this seems to be, they looked like the same material as the Ti retainers.
C
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil so it is the REV spring base!!! so far the springs look ok, but it doesn't make any sense why the base would fall apart like this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 10:24 PM: Message edited by: LunaticTA ]</small>
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 10:24 PM: Message edited by: LunaticTA ]</small>
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil Here it is with the passenger side cover off
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/broken2.jpg" alt=" - " />
Pulling drivers side now
F*** ME
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 08:50 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/broken2.jpg" alt=" - " />
Pulling drivers side now
F*** ME
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 08:50 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil I figured that was the only thing that size inside the engine. Most spring washers/seats are not titanium, they are cheap steel. Not sure why yours would be broken, kinda odd!
Get rid of those Rev springs before they cost you...
-Tony
Get rid of those Rev springs before they cost you...
-Tony
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nine Ball:
<strong>
Get rid of those Rev springs before they cost you...
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Might not be a bad idea..
Now this is interesting as well, TR has this seat listed for the REV double springs.
54-SC221 REV Hardened Spring Seats for 54-VS1116 1.25" Double Valve Springs
Since we got a couple of the first sets they sold, I wonder if the ones we got were not hardened seats. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Time to take more vacation to put the cars right...
Thanks everyone for all the responses.
Chuck
<strong>
Get rid of those Rev springs before they cost you...
-Tony</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Might not be a bad idea..
Now this is interesting as well, TR has this seat listed for the REV double springs.
54-SC221 REV Hardened Spring Seats for 54-VS1116 1.25" Double Valve Springs
Since we got a couple of the first sets they sold, I wonder if the ones we got were not hardened seats. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Time to take more vacation to put the cars right...
Thanks everyone for all the responses.
Chuck
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil Hehe, I was right <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Sorry about the luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Looks like every company has problems.
Sorry about the luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" /> Looks like every company has problems.
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil Well at least some good news, only 1 broken seat. #2 cylinder, intake. Just finished taking off drivers side, most my blood and skin are still there <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" />
Looks like time to call Thunder, they have outstanding service so I don't expect any problems.
This is why LunaticTA and I were planning on tearing them down to make sure something like this was not happening, sure glad we were not able to make it to the local drag stips.
Thanks everyone for the quick responses.
View from other side.
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/insidebroken.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 10:22 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
Looks like time to call Thunder, they have outstanding service so I don't expect any problems.
This is why LunaticTA and I were planning on tearing them down to make sure something like this was not happening, sure glad we were not able to make it to the local drag stips.
Thanks everyone for the quick responses.
View from other side.
<img src="http://www.winisp.net/derrick_baxter/images/insidebroken.jpg" alt=" - " />
<small>[ November 29, 2002, 10:22 PM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil Just an UPDATE:
Called Thunder Racing first thing today. Paul as expected was more then willing to replace the set. He asked me to call REV directly to see if they wanted the broken locator only or the whole set.
I then called REV and spoke to the contact Paul gave me, he also was more then willing to replace the set. But since I am w/o a car at the moment I went ahead and bought a new set and REV said they would credit me back once they got the broken 1 and others to test and see what happened.
Thunder Racings Customer service ROCKS. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
REV Customer service ROCKS <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
<small>[ December 02, 2002, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
Called Thunder Racing first thing today. Paul as expected was more then willing to replace the set. He asked me to call REV directly to see if they wanted the broken locator only or the whole set.
I then called REV and spoke to the contact Paul gave me, he also was more then willing to replace the set. But since I am w/o a car at the moment I went ahead and bought a new set and REV said they would credit me back once they got the broken 1 and others to test and see what happened.
Thunder Racings Customer service ROCKS. <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
REV Customer service ROCKS <img border="0" alt="[hail]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_hail.gif" />
<small>[ December 02, 2002, 11:19 AM: Message edited by: kick_*ss ]</small>
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Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil This forum rocks too. Quick, helpful responses not to mention all the companies that help us modify our toys are aware of the speed at which news travels these days. All benefit!
Re: HELP!!!! What is this? Found while changing oil If you used the REV spring seats and retainers then this is the problem. They put way to much pressure down with the installed height they end up at. A&A corvettes has the right retainers and seats which puts the installed height at 1.84 and about 135 pounds. REVS put the spring pressure at 160+ and installed height of 1.76. I have seen this with my own eyes. Just my two cents. Also I have the REV titanium retainers and hardend spring seats for the 1116's if anyone wants them, I didnt take any chances so I bought the A&A corvette ones just to be safe. I paid 288, I will take half that and I will ship for free.
<small>[ December 05, 2002, 08:24 AM: Message edited by: 5-liter-eater ]</small>
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